Kool Moe Dee vs. LL Cool J rap feud

I’m writing a paper on rap feuds and I was wondering if anyone knew what songs did Kool Moe Dee “dis” LL Cool J. Thanks for your help.

There were three “major” diss songs of LL Cool J by Kool Moe Dee that I remember -

First was How Ya Like Me Now from How Ya Like Me Now?

Then Let’s Go from the Jive compilation East Coast vs. West Coast

and finally Death Blow from Funke Funke Wisdom

By the time Death Blow was released, LL had pretty much decided he’d won and stopped responding to him.

Get real. Kool Moe Dee retired undefeated. No way did LL win that feud.

In fact, I don’t recall that LL* ever* responded to “Let’s Go!” Kool Moe Dee unleashed his pen and went wicked on Cool James. I felt sorry for the boy after that barrage of what LL stands for.

Why LL stopped the rhyme war is anybody’s guess (mine is that Ladies may love Cool James, but fellas thought James was weak) but most people who listened back in the day to the back and forth between “How Ya Like Me Now?” / “Jack The Rapper” / “Let’s Go!” and “Death Blow” would declare Moe Dee the winner.

Just as a reminder: we tend, as a board, not to want to do someone’s homework for them. So, providing links and general help, that’s fine, but …

There’s not actually a rule against doing someone’s homework. It’s just that most of us think that people are better off doing their own homework. There’s often a fine line between providing help (such as links to websites where the person can do their own work) and actually providing the answers (doing the homework for them.)

So, I’m just sayin’.

For clarification, I was speculating on why LL Cool J never responded to ‘Death Blow’, probably either he thought he’d won already, or the opposite as you suggest, he knew he’d lost and gave up.

I was young and didn’t really follow hip-hop when it happened and only found out about it retrospectively. Consequently, I don’t have much of an opinion either way on the victor.

From what I’ve read, the first verse of To Da Break of Dawn was LL’s response to Let’s Go (the second and third verses dissed MC Hammer and Ice-T respectively)

Dex, I think DVsick’s going to get a pretty sad grade if her entier paper consists of a list of three songs some dude on the Internet told her about. :slight_smile: A lot of additional research is going to be required.

Kool Mo Dee the winner, Askia? I don’t think you can the winner of a rap feud if the other guy’s career continues another 15 years while you end up selling insurance door to door. :wink:


I wasn’t asking for someone to “do my homework for me.” I picked this topic because I don’t know anything about rap feuds so I wanted to learn more and I needed a starting point. This paper is going to be over 20 pages, so these songs will barely make 2 paragraphs in my paper.

Cliffy. That’s why they call it battlin’ on the mic. You can kick ass in a series of battles and still lose the larger war – like record sales. Make no mistake: Moe Dee destroyed LL Cool J lyrically when they did the rap battles of those particular songs. But LL was younger and sexier, with a far more sizable female fan base that helped him get into double platinum sales, and unlike Moe Dee, branched off into other aspects of entertainment including acting in videoes, TV and movies and doing product endorsements to extend and supplement his occassionally flagging music career. So, yeah, Moe Dee clearly won the rap battle whereas LL went further in his career. But LL’s brand of rap was more always more saleable. It’s like Jay-Z and Nas – Nas is a far better lyricist, no question. But Jay-Z has the better production and image and sells more. SCRUB’S Zack Braff has more talent in his pinkie finger than Ashton Kutcher’s whle body (and his clone army, if he had one) but who gets more exposure?

DVsickgirlDV. There ARE those of us who don’t mind helping someone with their homework, who don’t see a conflict in helping someone get exactly the information they need, who assume you will be ethical enough to use the information given responsibly and with proper attribution.

LL definitely lost some ground in the battle when he rapped about “sippin’ on a Bartle & James” [wine cooler] at the end of To Da Break of Dawn.