Lacunae Quell, you are a moronic tool who is a discredit to your faith

[MEBuckner]

@Lacunae Quell (in the Great Debates thread)

No. God did not lie ABRAHAM. Sacrifices were necessary… and Abraham had no sacrifice… so he offered his son. God didn’t command Abraham to offer his son as a sacrifice… God just commanded a sacrifice… since Abraham didn’t have a proper sacrifice he had no other option but to offer up his son. God saw Abraham’s faithfulness and provided a ram.

It is impossible for God to lie. God CANNOT lie.

So I reply:

@MEBuckner

From the story of Abraham and Isaac (Genesis 22:1-19):

Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”
“Here I am,” he replied.

Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about.”

(first two verses)

God very clearly commands Abraham to sacrifice his son (“as a burnt offering”, so clearly there is no weaseling about “Oh, I just meant bind him to Me in a special covenant” or anything like that). And then, just as Abraham is about to cut his son’s throat, God says “Psych!”

Maybe it’s just the translation. Except that every single translation in existence makes it clear that God is telling Abraham to sacrifice-as-in-kill his son.

To which I get back:

@Lacunae_Quell

Guess I should have read it first.

I have to admit, I don’t really have a response to that one. I’m kind of speechless.

I mean–Yes…Yes, you probably should have read it first.

Oy. :smack: