before i rant, and yes, there will be ranting, i would first like to thank God for leading me to this website because it has been far too long since i last posted in a forum.
I will get to the topic of this thread after the introduction… i do want to talk about who killed Jesus… but i must go over some other things first…
if you would like to skip the introduction and get straight to the topic (although i deeply implore you to read ALL of the introduction), press CTRL+F and type (or copy and paste) “Get to the Point” in the search box and… well… that will get you to the point.
…one last note before the introduction… these are simply the things i have chosen to believe. if you have not made the choice to believe some or all of the things i believe, or you have chosen NOT to believe anything pertaining, that is YOUR choice. it will not make me think any less of you as a human and i want to be your friend all the same. i like people. i love people. even people i don’t know. yes, just because they’re people. just because they’re another human life and i should love them. i love how there are over 6 billion UNIQUELY INDIVIDUAL human lives. it amazes me. i believe while there are some people who are horrible people, there isn’t any reason not to love them. i might not like what you do, but i know i may do things that you don’t like. the point is i want to respect a human life, even if it doesn’t deserve respect, because i know my life doesn’t deserve respect… but some horrible people have turned into loving and caring people and vice versa. i look back at things in my past and see a horrible person… but i know that i have made the choice to never do those things again. there are things in my life, as of this moment, that in the future i will look back on as horrible things i will never do again (such as smoking cigarettes… such a cliché, i know).
random interesting fact… saying something is a cliché is cliché.
…that accented ‘e’ brings me great joy. ALT+0233 for anyone interested.
p.s. i quote the Bible. i find it very quotable. i am not trying to preach. i am typing the way i perceive reality. call me crazy but… am i not allowed to perceive reality the way i choose? i don’t desire to harm anyone. live and let live.
…and now it’s time for the…
i must warn you before you read any further… i type long posts (i’m sure you’ve noticed by now if you’ve read this far). i would constantly be criticized by people in the last forums i posted in because of the length of my posts (partly the reason i left that forum and have had nothing to do with forums until now). if you do not like to read, if i begin to offend you, or if you just don’t find what i’m typing interesting, please stop reading immediately and please, please, PLEASE don’t complain about the length of my posts. you do not have to read this if you do not want to… and from personal observation, if you complain about the length of a post, people will either worship you and follow your lead or they will think you are lazy and ignorant and not desiring to read the thoughts, beliefs, or opinions of another human being. Criticizing the length of my posts does not discourage me. it only irritates me. i have a lot on my mind and it is very satisfying and soothing for me to type. As i have told many other people… i do not type my posts to please you. i type my posts for my own pleasure and for the pleasure of those who enjoy reading what i post. some will find it hard to believe that people could possibly enjoy reading what i type… but i have had positive feedback as well as negative… i like both.
if you have any questions about the things i type, or would like to intelligibly debate something i have typed… please… i love a challenge. know this… i am stubborn… and until i choose to change the way i think or believe, i will continue to think and believe the things i do.
i am not stupid… but i can be VERY foolish.
i like to debate with other humans. it brings me great joy. i like to type. this also brings me great joy. i find it much easier to type my thoughts than to speak them. i do not have a “backspace” for my mouth. i like being able to take my time with what i’m trying to convey to others. i tend to overuse the ellipsis… but as strange as it may sound, the ellipsis brings me great joy… don’t ask…
i believe God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit ARE. i believe Those three entities work together as One and as One are the highest of all deities, entities, powers, principalities, spirits, gods, and so forth and so on, etc., etc… i do not just believe. i know, as truth, that They exist. However, i am not a traditional Christian. i was raised Baptist, went to a Baptist school, was transferred to a Mennonite school, have been to churches of many different religions (Catholic, Pentecostal, Mennonite, CoC, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, and non-denominational, just to name the ones i can think of). i believe some religions are closer to the truth than others, but all religions have truths, and no religion is the absolute truth. i am not a religious person but i am very spiritual. i strongly believe that the Book of Mormon and the Qur’an are the Words of God as well as the Holy Bible. i believe the Holy Bible has been corrupted over time by evil and wicked men, but i believe the way we have the Holy Bible is the way God wants us to have it. It is filled with many truths. Bible simply means ‘a collection of books’. So quite literally, the Holy Bible is a collection of books intended to make one holy and godly. “Make every effort to be holy… without holiness, no one will see the Lord”–Hebrews 12:14. Holy means ‘to be set apart’, amongst other definitions. When Holy is used to describe God, it means ‘flawless’ or ‘perfect’. When holy is used to describe one’s actions or lifestyle, it means ‘separated’ or ‘set apart from’. therefore, those who are attempting to be holy for God Almighty take it upon themselves to do all they can to separate themselves from the things that will separate them from having an intimate (not sexually intimate, mind you) relationship with God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
i am not offended by “cuss” words. to me they are just words. i use them, but try to do so when i’m alone or with people who aren’t offended by them. the ultimate curse would be “God Damn”, because you are requesting God to damn something, and that’s a pretty hefty curse… i try not to say that but sometimes i do say it. i think it more than i say it. i do find myself using too many foul words and only try to use them tastefully or for emphasis.
i am not perfect, nor will i ever claim to be. i do not think i am better than anyone, nor do i think anyone is better than me. i believe i have a better relationship with God than some people and i believe that some people have a better relationship with God than i do. i believe God desires a relationship with all men who desire a relationship with Him. i strive to be holy, but often fall short of my goals and God’s expectations. i believe i will overcome the things in my life that i feel separate me from a perfect relationship with God, but no one can have a perfect relationship with God until after God’s judgment of mankind. i desire to be holy and i want to do what is right in the eyes of God for His glory, and nothing more. He has promised me a reward and if all i have to do is believe and practice what i believe, then, by golly… i want to believe. The promise of Eternal Life is enough to make me want to believe. i love life. it’s beautiful… and if i can have a perfect life for all eternity, i want it… and because it is promised to me, i will have it.
When i say “man” or “mankind”, unless i note otherwise, i am referring to both men and women alike.
i do not judge people. i judge their actions and i have every right to do so. It is my duty to protect myself from harmful influences that others can have upon me, and it is not wrong to judge people in that sense, but i should be able to control myself to the point where i don’t let what others do influence me. God alone is the judge of a man’s immortal soul, and God alone has the power to give life and to take it, eternally speaking. i will not point my finger at anyone and say “you’re going to burn in Hell”. That is not my position or decision to make. That is up to the individual and ultimately God. Those who have put their faith in Jesus Christ and those who practice living the life of love and holiness Jesus taught us to live are given a free pass into Heaven, regardless. “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved”–Romans 10:9. yes, it is that simple… if you believe. although you must PRACTICE what you PREACH. “Faith without works is DEAD”–James 2:20 and “You will know them by their fruits”–Matthew 7:16
Through my personal life experiences, and through the evidences that i have gathered through my own free will of thoughts and judgments, as well as the written and/or spoken thoughts of others from past to present, i have come to the conclusion that there CANNOT not be God. God is Love. i have also come to the conclusion that God, being Love, would not create a world and allow so many bad things to happen without a plan of Salvation. i have chosen to follow His plan of Salvation, which is faith that He sent mankind a redeemer, Jesus the Christ, born of the virgin Mary, and raised and fathered by Joseph. This faith also believes as truth that Jesus lived a sinless life, something no other man had done before or would do after… EVER. Jesus did absolutely NOTHING wrong in the eyes of God. Jesus was found without blemish in the eyes of God. Because Jesus accomplished living a sinless life for the glory of God the Father, when Jesus died, and on the third day after He was buried, was resurrected from death through the power of God, Jesus conquered Death and Hell, and became as God, but did not take the throne of God. In Genesis 41:40, the Pharaoh says to Joseph “Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou”. This is the best verse to describe the rule of Jesus. Jesus sits at the right hand of God. Jesus never outright claimed to be God. Jesus said “I and the Father are One”. This is how God and Jesus (and Holy Spirit) are One. The Three work together as One.
These are the things i truly believe, without doubt. Most everything else i believe can change given the right facts or right amount time… but through the will of God, i cannot change my mind about the Holy Trinity. Through His love, mercy, grace and forgiveness i will forever believe in the Holy Trinity, and i will forever believe that They rule supreme, and there is NO power greater than God.
i believe creation took billions of years and i believe evolution was a process of creation. i DO NOT believe man evolved directly from ape, or any sort of animal. Man was created of the Earth.
i believe Heaven and Hell are eternal rewards, and will be given to each soul after the Day of Judgment, which will be the day God completely separates evil from good for all eternity, and each will continue their own separate way for all time.
i believe in symbolism and i believe it is a powerful tool.
with 'nuff said… i will now get to the topic of this thread. Who killed Jesus? i read the article of the same topic… and i found it rather interesting and accurate. It brought to mind a sermon i once listened to and i wanted to share it with those who have read or possibly will read, and maybe even those who inspired and wrote the “Who Killed Jesus” article.
(This actually won’t be as long as my introduction, but i felt the insatiable need to type what i believe so those who read can know me on a more personal basis)
!?..Get to the Point…?!
Who Killed Jesus?
- I killed Jesus, because He died for MY sins.
- You Killed Jesus, because He died for YOUR sins (whether you believe or not).
- The Jews killed Jesus, because they asked for it.
- The Romans killed Jesus, because they let it happen.
- Judas killed Jesus, because he betrayed Him.
- Pilate killed Jesus, because he condemned Him.
- God killed Jesus, because He sent Jesus to die for the sins of mankind.
…that is the gist of the pastor’s sermon.
however, i honestly cannot remember if i heard this from that pastor… but…!
- No one killed Jesus.
Jesus laid down His own life. No one took Jesus’ life from Him. Jesus GAVE His life for ALL of mankind. Jesus knew what God wanted and what prophecy spoke of the Messiah. Jesus was commanded by God to live a sinless life and to die, sinless, for the sins of ALL men. Jesus lived His life for that moment… not to be killed mercilessly… but to freely offer His own perfect life in exchange for the imperfect lives of EACH and EVERY single man who ever had lived, who was living, and who would live.
John 3:16–“For God so loved the world that He GAVE His only begotten Son…”.
John 15:13–“Greater love hath no man than this, that a man LAY DOWN his life for his friends”.
Romans 5:8–“God demonstrates His own love… that while we were still sinners, Christ died FOR us”.
Romans 5:10–“For if when we were ENEMIES of God we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son…”.
I John 3:16–“By this we know love, because He LAID DOWN HIS LIFE for us”.
I John 4:8–"…God is love"
well… that’s that. i’m sure i’ll be browsing through the message boards and jumping into conversations at some point and time… and i’m sure eventually i’ll create another thread… but i hope for the time being this has interested and informed anyone who reads this… whether you believe in these things or not… i hope this thread has tickled your imagination and/or provoked some thought.
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