Okay, this isn’t a Great Debate per se, but I feel the need to get some things off of my chest for all Dopers and Left Behinders here, and this seems to be the forum read most by those who would care.
I realize that this is somewhat of a dead issue at this point, and I fear some may think I’m fanning a dying flame, but I feel somewhat responsible for the whole mess, and I feel my thoughts on the matter should be noted, if only as a matter of record.
I instigated people going over to LBMB for one reason only - to have folks more knowledgable about evolutionary sciences than I go over there to tell them better than I why the rhetoric posed by Creation Scientists (and believed by most people there as a real science itself) were either lies and half-truths.
I did this for the same reason anyone posts a link to a site - I thought some Dopers could lend a new perspective to the proceedings.
Needless to say, I was right. There were quite a few new perspectives. Some debunked the aforementioned rhetoric. A government major spoke of church/state issues. A Christian on this board questioned about inconsistancies in the Bible.
Meanwhile, my thread inviting people there had become a huge 700+ post running account of our interaction there.
It was silly, and some of the comments could certainly inflame some LBMB people who let emotions rule.
However, if you examine the evidence, I feel you will find nothing erroneous about the following statements:
(1) Dopers who went there were respectful and obeyed rules until one poster specifically lost patience and got himself banned. Until that one (and it was only one) moment, everyone was playing nice, just with differing opinions than a lot of the board.
(2) Until someone (Phaedrus, most likely, and a hearty “Fuck you” to him if it was) told their admin MBagnal about Dopers being there, nobody at LBMB felt as if they were being “attacked.” Correct me if I’m wrong, please…
(3) MBagnal proceeded to post about being “attacked,” and pretty much gave sanction towards their people coming here.
(4) A few LBMB types came here and did really silly things, things that were never done on LBMB. Maybe WE were the ones being attacked?
(5) It was over was soon as it begun. MBagnal called his followers home, and the lamers left, while those who violated our own policies were banned.
(6) The few LBMB regs who like it here are accepted and are already enjoying conversations with others - many of whom think a lot more like them than they might have initially thought, I suspect.
Now, I have to ask the question: What is with supposed death threats of MBagnal? I really would like to know the status of evidence as to whether this happened or not, and offer my assistance to uncover who did it (if in fact they were done).
I for one am very glad to see the likes of Navigator, Pariah, Rabbai, and some others here, as they add much to the board and I feel they are the types to not close their minds to possibly learning from the board as well.
Let me say to all of our new LBMB friends: I am sorry you came here under such a climate. But I hope we can all get along and have some fun!
Also, please do not judge me too harshly for my name. I chose it for reasons that are not meant to offend you and folks like you, but simply because of my penchant for playing Devil’s Advocate, as well as a healthy respect for shocking people a bit!
Just don’t ask me to get behind you or anything…
Yer pal,
Satan