Lissner, you’re a tool.
No one but you cares about Lib’s name, and you have been asked (told) be a Mod to stop being such a dick. Let it drop. Have a beer. Cry into it. Whine to your mother and have her pat your head.
At the very least find something else to bitch about.
:rolleyes:
You’re pretty much right. Although I’ve never been banned from any message board, I have voluntarily left three: one was a free-market board where I was Coventried (put on ignore by almost everyone) for daring to expose Harry Browne, who was running for president on the Libertarian Party ticket, as a statist and Constitutionalist; another was a Christian [sic] board that refused to consider my repeated pleas to stop putting anything and everything about homosexuals in the limited-access “dirty talk” forum; and the other was one of my favorite boards of all time, discussing nothing but philosophy. I left it without any fanfare or notice because its owner, to whom I had donated a considerable amount of cash, declined to back my decision as a moderator involving someone else who had donated a considerable amount of cash. It was during my time as moderator at that board that my whole outlook on message boards, including this one, shifted. I came to understand what a herculean job the mods do here, and how something really petty is often blown into mountainous drama. Like the topic of this thread, for example. It has amused me that a couple of people have perceived my newfound disinterest as aggressiveness, and have even ominously predicted over and over my impending meltdown, often citing my past history as evidence for an inevitable future event — a fallacy, of course. I haven’t had a meltdown, as you can see, and don’t intend to have one. Nothing here is really that important.
He does indeed. 
There once was a fellow named lissener
toiled to dig at ol’ Lib, as to disinter
an arcane sobriquet
in a wrong-headed way
seems The Point, he was doomed, to keep missin’ her.
lissener:
Mistaking it for a charactonym, you look on “Liberal” as an intolerable nuisance, while I, for one, and if only as a measure of intellectual vanity in this international community, am thankful for the reclamation of the word. This is a sad, ignorant time in America, and we are foundering in the morass of a seemingly postdiluvian language, where one man’s proper use of “liberal” is a rude earthen levee against a vast, eroding floodplain. Reasonably, a scholar as erudite and expressive as you should honor this gesture, yet your history with Liberal has clouded your mind, and you hector him, with unbecoming pettiness, at his placement of every Quixotic spadeful. Arms akimbo and stentorian of voice, while the murky waters swirl around your ankles, you couch your troubles with Liberal in philosophical terms, and in so doing, conveniently obscure your most damning flaw: a patent, pathological refusal to halt your wambling fingertips and embody the “listener”. You are a talented author, but if you will never deign to portray the bolstering role – Sancho Panza, if you will – your art, your causes and your passions will suffer the consignment of terms such as wan, torpid and shrill. And that would be truly regrettable.
Yeah. Like I said: “Shut up and sit down.”
El Cid, that was beautiful. ::tear::
How do you know he doesn’t? You’ve said it a kabillion times yourself. Lord only knows dozens and dozens of people have told him what an ass he’s being. What makes you think he’ll get the message? Kee-rist, the guy himself has told people to STFU already with this patronizing bullshit.
Well now, I guess I can’t, because if you feel the need to educate people on the poor sick Dr. Jeckyl and his dependence on evil meds that turn him into Mr. Hyde – thereby giving the impression that we must forgive him his trespasses for he knows not what he does – then someone else will need to educate them on the fact that his prescribed drugs may not actually be the cause of his badboy behavior. We mentally ill people can simply be assholes, just like the rest of y’all.
In any event, your constantly bringing up these meds, even with the best of intentions, is publicly bringing up some personal issues that really are not relevant to reasoned discussion. Seems way out of bounds to me, especially since Liberal himself has told folks to knock it off.
The important part of my idea is that he’d do it. He doesn’t pay any attention when I say it; I’m not really saying it to him these days, but to other folks.
:rolleyes: That’s not what I’m saying, but if that’s how you want to keep misinterpreting it, I suppose I can’t stop you. Have fun.
His desire for me to knock it off is only marginally more relevant than your desire. I’m not bringing it up because of him, and if he wants me to stop mentioning it, he can bloody well stop being an aggressive ass. I’m bringing it up because I was really thrown for a loop when he first went psycho on me, and when I understood that his crazy mood swings were due in part to the drugs he was on, it helped me out. Not helped him–helped me.
I bring it up because if someone had explained it to me earlier, it would’ve helped me deal with him; I hope that my explaining it to other people will help them.
But if it’ll make you feel better, I’ll add a disclaimer next time I bring it up that I don’t consider the drugs to be an excuse. How’s that?
Daniel
Yep, I’d say he makes my point pretty well in this post. Thank you, Ashtar.
Depends on how you word the request. Lib has set up a code phrase for such situtions: “I respectfully remind you that this is Your Lord God you’re addressing.”
That’s true; however, although I can’t prove it with cites, I’ve been feeling that the law of diminishing returns is kicking in on that. Could be I’m wrong.
Daniel
Frankly, Daniel, and with all due respect, it seems to me that you are the one who is aggressive lately. I had hoped that my conciliatory gesture to honor your recent request would tame your outbursts and satisfy your compulsion to follow me around from thread to thread pointing out to everyone how obsessed I am with myself, and informing people about a medical condition of which you know nothing. I am beginning to wonder whether you did not manipulate me into a position where I have agreed not to criticize your worldview while you take every conceivable opportunity to run amock and criticize mine. I’m afraid that if you wish to rescue the downward slide of our relationship, you are either going to have to release me from my obligation or else return in kind what you ask for yourself.
I don’t follow you around. You may have noticed that you appear in quite a few threads, and that you say outrageous things in quite a few threads. I never open a thread because of you. Again, you think that you’re the center of everything.
All I know about your medical condition is that you told me that Prednisone can make you behave aggressively. I don’t believe I’ve ever exceeded this knowledge in what I’ve said about it.
The only obligation I “manipulated” you into was not to be insultingly nasty and dishonest about modern liberals–not to call liberals zombies and thieves. If you’ve chosen to parlay that into something else, that’s not my business, and I can’t release you from it.
Daniel
I wouldn’t know; I’ve only see in used once.
Prednisone isn’t the only thing that can make a person behave aggressively, you know. There’s also plain rudeness and lack of decency towards a fellow human being, Left Hand of Dorkness.
An ironic assertion, considering that it was not I who made it. If only I knew what I thought, I would be your equal. 
Sure it can. But you do not even know whether I am still on it.
No, I don’t believe that is the case. I believe that you asked me not to call centrists zombies and thieves. Quite obviously, I do not believe that liberals are zombies and thieves.
Well, then, we must have had a misunderstanding. I will consider myself unbound. Maybe that misunderstanding was the spur that was between us.
Liberal, I have seen you accuse other people of following you from thread to thread. With 16,500 posts, you have been in a LOT of threads. The threads that interest you do not interest only you. My best guess is that you are in over half of the threads I read, though I do not remember seeing you in the baseball ones. Anyone who has the same general interests as you is going to show up in the same threads. I believe it is egotistical of you to assume that people are following you around the board, and paranoid of you to assume that they are doing this for the sole purpose of attacking you.
Ah, now Daniel takes it upon himself to share the precise name of Liberal’s medication. Why stop there, dude? As long as you’re making assumptions based on his apparently having shared this info at some point, you might as well go whole hog, regardless of it being none of our fucking business.
So aren’t you gonna tell us all what the exact diagnosis is that requires the prescription? And what dosage he’s on? Who dispensed it, a good doctor or a quack? Has he been skipping it lately? Does it give him the runs, is he gaining weight? Do you think his fingers have gotten too fat to mash into the keyboard, which pisses him off and thus makes him do one of his drivebys? :rolleyes:
Seriously, I have my issues with Liberal (not that either he or you knows/cares who the hell I am, a mere newbie), but this is just going too far. At first I thought you were doing this in a well-meaning but condescending ass-backwards way. I’m beginning to sense this isn’t the case. More and more, it appears that you’re using this knowledge of his personal life against him in the guise of helping him and protecting the innocent bystanders. Well, that’s really crappy. This is one weapon in the ol’ arsenal that simply shouldn’t be used.
What does it matter if he’s got some medication issue? Did Collunsbury? Did handy? Did DreadCthuhlu? Who the fuck knows, and who the fuck cares? When they acted like idiots, people didn’t drag out some patronizing explanation for their behavior. I don’t expect people to bring up my reliance on XX drug every time they think I’m displaying some negative quality. And as Libera has said, he doesn’t either. I see he has more self-respect than that. Despite my dislike of some of his behavior and beliefs, I actually have more respect for him than I did before reading this thread.
And not even just 'cause of the John Spencer love.
Funniest line I’ve read today:
I fail to see how this proves your point, but your welcome.
Hey gum, I’m with you, but good heavens, this drama’s about prednisone. I’d seen it sprinkled all over the boards, Liberal’s Dirty Drug Secrets, and had been led to believe the medications allegations were about “bennies” or “greenies” or “'ludes”. Sometimes I’d lean toward “yellow jackets.” And there was always an outside chance of “goof-balls”. Recently, I’d come to the conclusion it was “gop”. And he was surely gooped up, but good. But prednisone? Steroids?
Prednisone and “code phrases”. That reminds me. You know about Jerry Lewis’ code phrase, right? Back in the '90s, come Labor Day, this was the only thing that could get him back on stage at the Telethon:
“Bishop was a slacker and never shoulda done that to Dean-O. To Dean-O!!”
Well sure, you were more direct, but at least I made two things rhyme with “lissener.” In my book, it’s a wash.
So I’ve been thinking, Snake Legs, is there any way we can get lissener to agree to a code phrase of his own? That would be, among other adjectives, convenient.
I’d finally be able to start a thread in Cafe Society! Usually, it’s immediately subsumed by the grinding onslaught of the Bastard Children of Heinlein and Verhoeven. Last week, I had an announcement about NPR that I was just dying to post, but then I saw Showgirls does not exactly suck and Enemy Mine is much better than Starship Troopers at the top of the forum. Consecutively. And while I was composing my post those two were flip-flopping like a rotisserie chicken. Then halfway down the page, it’s OMG – John Travolta as “Lazarus Long”?.
And so I says to myself, what’s the use?