Limbaugh..my hunch was right.

[uglybeech]

I believe it. That’s exactly the type of thing I’d have done at that age. Not because I was noble, but because kids that age can be extremely impressionable. Example: I heard somewhere about the need for water conservation and I saved all the drips from our leaky faucet in bottles that I stashed around the house.

By the way when conservatives call Clinton a liar - are they referring to anything more than the sex scandals?

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@eenerms

Whoa there Hector… PAX

Sure. No problem. Just don’t say dumbass things.

[saoirse]

I think we’re losing sight of the most important issue in this thread, which is that EddyTeddyFreddy is some sort of Googly Savant.

[Left_Hand_of_Dorkness]

@saoirse

I think we’re losing sight of the most important issue in this thread, which is that EddyTeddyFreddy is some sort of Googly Savant.

Great Googly Moguly!

Daniel

[zut]

Heh. Can’t tie her shoe, chews with her mouth open, but give her an open internet connection and a stack of keywords and she’s of to the races.

[EddyTeddyFreddy]

@zut

Heh. Can’t tie her shoe, chews with her mouth open, but give her an open internet connection and a stack of keywords and she’s of to the races.

Or even off to them.

:: swaggers away, trips over shoelaces, falls open-mouthed into plate of spaghetti ::

[EddyTeddyFreddy]

@saoirse

I think we’re losing sight of the most important issue in this thread, which is that EddyTeddyFreddy is some sort of Googly Savant.

Just keep in mind, folks, “Googly” does not equal “Idiot”. I think.

And by the way, how d’you make that “does not equal” sign anyway?

[EddyTeddyFreddy]

@EddyTeddyFreddy

Just keep in mind, folks, “Googly” does not equal “Idiot”. I think.

And by the way, how d’you make that “does not equal” sign anyway?

I suppose it says something or other that this happens to be my 6,000th post.

Thank you, but I’d prefer not to hear what.

[Guinastasia]

@Evil One

Clinton is full of more shit than a septic tank and was, as usual, in full pander mode.

Name me one politician who isn’t. They’re all a bunch of bullshitters.

[E-Sabbath]

Carter?

[Guinastasia]

@E-Sabbath

Carter?

Ehhhhh, even Carter had his moments-remember the killer rabbit?

[EddyTeddyFreddy]

@Guinastasia

Ehhhhh, even Carter had his moments-remember the killer rabbit?

The Perfect Master speaks.

[Jackmannii]

@uglybeech

By the way when conservatives call Clinton a liar - are they referring to anything more than the sex scandals?

As Guin indicated, it is sort of superfluous to call a politician a liar, as it is a job requirement.

But they are probably also thinking of classics like this:

*“When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn’t like it. I didn’t inhale and never tried it again.” *–Bill Clinton

[GIGObuster]

@EddyTeddyFreddy

The Perfect Master speaks.

I think Cecil missed something there, indeed one can tell what it was in the photo: this guy actually got the goods: it was a rabbit:

http://www.narsil.org/politics/carter/killer_rabbit.html

It was a nightmare. The story ran for more than a week. The President was repeatedly asked to explain his behavior at town hall meetings, press conferences, and meetings with editors.

There was talk of a suit under the Freedom of Information Act to force release of the picture showing the President, paddle and rabbit in close proximity.

Shortly after the Reagan administration took office, they stumbled upon a copy of the picture – apparently while searching for a foreign policy – and reopened the old wounds by releasing it to the press.

Well - this is where I enter the story. I was 25 at the time the story broke, and I remember the furor over the incident. However, I can’t recall ever having seen the aforementioned picture. Web searches turned up plenty of references to the story, but no images; the story unfortunately broke before Al Gore invented the Internet.

And in the link, a close up of the critter and then the big picture showing them together, and indeed, Carter just splashed the paddle to shoo the rabbit away.

[carnivorousplant]

@Jackmannii

*“I didn’t inhale .” *–Bill Clinton

He has since explained that was an attempt at humor.

[eenerms]

@Hentor the Barbarian

Sure. No problem. Just don’t say dumbass things.

Ok, If you say “don’t say dumbass things” that’s one thing, however calling me a dumbass is an other thing all together.

I am by NO means a conservative, BTW. I just was say there are people out there are who turn the attention on themselves no matter what the situation.

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@eenerms

Ok, If you say “don’t say dumbass things” that’s one thing, however calling me a dumbass is an other thing all together.

Well, I believe that “dumbass is as dumbass posts,” but fine - I’ll assume you were just having a dumbass moment that may or may not be in keeping with your regular way of being.

I am by NO means a conservative, BTW. I just was say there are people out there are who turn the attention on themselves no matter what the situation.

If you want to make a point, then link to and analyze Clinton’s entire remarks to show how he was self-servingly turning the occasion towards himself. Otherwise, you have an anecdote snatched bloody from the body of the text, and are lamely using it to try to support an argument at odds with what people will recognize as a fairly common part of a memorial. That’s a real dumbass thing to do, and quite a common tactic of conservatives. You ask me to accept that you are neither a dumbass nor a conservative; I think I’ll wait for the second reel.

[The_Flying_Dutchman]

@Hentor the Barbarian

However, if you’ll notice, he says that he and his friends rode at the back of the bus because they “liked” it. But in the quote in question, he says that they rode in the front of the bus until Rosa Parks did her thing.

So which is it, Bill? Huh? Front or back? Because you liked it or because you “strongly approved” of Rosa Parks?

I could overlook the whole blow job thing, but this baldfaced deception…

Let’s have another look at the two quotes.

@Clinton

I remember as if it were yesterday that fateful day 50 years ago. I was a nine-year-old southern white boy who road a segregated bus every single day of my life. And I sat in the front. Black folk sat in the back. When Rosa showed us that black folks didn’t have to sit in the back anymore, two of my friends and I who strongly approved of what she had done decided we didn’t have to sit in the front anymore.

@Clinton's 1996 book

When I was a kid growing up in segregated Arkansas, I rode the city bus to school. It cost a nickel. My friends and I liked to sit at the back of the bus. When the bus was crowded, it was pointed out to us that black folks were supposed to sit in the back of the bus. I didn’t know any better. Discrimination doesn’t come naturally; it has to be taught.

If you want to see the quotes above as conradictory feel free. But you made several critical mistatements to support your opinion.

1. Clinton never said that as a child he “strongly approved of Rosa Parks”. He said that he and his friends approved of what she had done. I think the distinction is critical and points not to a politically altruistic motive for a nine year old which I would regard as highly suspect, but rather a simple motive for approving an action that resulted in justification for him and his friends to feel entitled to sit in the back of the bus.

Secondly the inference that you draw that a contradiction exists whether he sat in the back or the front fails on two points.

The 1996 quote clearly states that he and his friends “liked” to sit at the back of the bus. It does not imply that that they did. Any reasonable person can understand that most kids would like to sit at the back of the bus, as far away as possible.

I can quite easily envision many times when these young lads went to the back of the bus, occassionaly called on it until they knuckled under by the time they reached 9 years of age.

If you are looking for contradictions you will always find them. If you are looking for explanations you’ll find them too. I think my case is a lot stronger than yours because I did not rely on misrepresention of Clinton’s quotes.

[uglybeech]

@Jackmannii

*“When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn’t like it. I didn’t inhale and never tried it again.” *–Bill Clinton

No, I mean anything substantive.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Jackmannii

*“When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn’t like it. I didn’t inhale and never tried it again.” *–Bill Clinton

Do you have a cite that this was a lie?

In an MTV appearance, Clinton explained that he had tried to inhale but that his asthma had caused him to choke and he couldn’t get it in. Far from being implausible, choking and coughing on one’s first hit of weed is actually the norm for most people- especially people who have never smoked cigarettes or who have respiratory problems like asthma. I choked like a bastard on my first hit off a joint (although I got over it quickly) and I was already a cigarette smoker who did not have any respiratory problems.

Granted, Clinton picked a stupid way to phrase it. It sounded like he was qualifying it. He should have said he couldn’t inhale because he was choking too much, but even so, that doesn’t mean his statement that “I didn’t inhale” was factually incorrect or dishonest.