You’re right. It’s completely sexist and anti-male. No self-respecting man would stand for this abuse. I encourage you, Octopus, and anyone else who is upset over this decision to make a statement by leaving and never coming back.
Same here. I don’t want to read the thread that is labeled about who is side would you take in a fight between fiancé’s only to find rape/incest/abuse porn. Frankly it creeped me right the fuck out.
If Skald gets his kicks from that, that’s his problem but stealth inflicting them on us without warning is not OK. What part of that are you having trouble getting, D’anaconda?
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Yup, it was both creepy and unwelcome.
Darn those sexist mods, fixing an issue that bothers men AND women, but not d’anconia!
Originally, you said:
The rule is not based on the gender of the participants. The rule is gender neutral.
Some women were offended. Some men were offended. The rule is not based on whether some tipping point of men/women/posters are offended, though raising the issue can certainly bring things to the forefront. We have pre-existing rules about descriptive thread titles, and not being a jerk. Rickrolling abuse porn or other specific NSFW topics into seemingly innocuous threads is violative of one or both of those. The topics themselves are not forbidden, but it’s more civil to be clear on the topic so people can choose whether they wish to participate.
I don’t want to get into specifics. The IMHO mods can address those items directly with the poster(s) in question if they wish.
I’m hard to offend, but I did find it intensely skeevy. To me it’s just unnecessary and gross, but I fully understand why it would make others, especially female posters, uncomfortable or worse.
So, if we (men) mistreat women, it’s sexist to punish men for mistreating them when they complain?
If someone started posting threads that seemed normal, then had incredibly degrading statements directed at disabled or mentally ill people in the middle of them, out of the blue, for two examples, many of us would be citing this same policy.
Likewise if a poster began race baiting degradation in the middle of their posts.
Degrading sexual descriptions aren’t generally necessary for any thread and have the ‘benefit’ of being NSFW and may cause issues for people reading on work computers or in public spaces. Repeatedly putting them in the middle of threads without warning is very problematic and people, especially women - as we had not yet seen a single instance of male sexual degradation in any of this poster’s threads - felt that enough was enough and we needed to dial it back.
This required a new board policy, to which the overwhelming majority agreed. The only issues in the discussion were minor squabbles about messaging.
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Honestly, I don’t think you earned the right to be part of the “we” herein. You were against recognizing the concern of the female forum members for most of the thread.
Seriously, please use good judgment and restraint. Take personal or specific issues you have with other posters to another thread (I recommend using the Pit). Also, post #182.
Hey, remember that part where the moderator said to knock it off and take it to the pit?
Good times.
I was offended, and I’m a guy. Besides, if a poster kept starting threads with innocuous titles like “A Family Dilemma” in which he continually dropped in gratuitous references to having black servants, and the nominal villains of his stories always carried around pictures in their wallets of lynchings of African-Americans and atrocities in the Belgian Congo which they’d show to their black maid, I hope they’d mod the fuck out of him, too. Not because I’m black, which I’m not, but because some shit is offensive to people and I want them to not be in an environment where racist shit flies without comment.
ME, too.
Not merely offensive, mind you, but also poorly written.* YMMV
- which I also find offensive.
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Or maybe you could, unlike the Pit troglodytes, get your facts straight and not misrepresent people. I actually proposed the NSFW tag and other helpful solutions in the pit. And guess what? I was called a troll, my words were twisted, and an organized clique insulted me based on my gender and race.
Now, practically the same solution that was proposed and attacked is adopted praise galore is heaped upon it. :dubious:
So, since it was a decision I actually proposed and was mocked for, why would I be upset to see it implemented?
In the almost twenty year history of this message board, has a new policy been enacted because a subset of men were offended? Example, please.
Dude, the game is over, the fans have gone home.
And this policy was not invoked because women were offended. People, most of whom happened to be women, brought this to the attention of the mods, who discussed it at length, and decided to act.
Women happen to be people, first.
Almost all the rules. Unless you think every rule was unanimously applauded by every man.
Of course women are people. But making new rules because mostly women (your words) are offended is the very definition of sexism.
Should we bring back fainting couches? Smelling salts?
No, the rule was made because people were offended.
Virtually every rule on this board was made because poeople brought things up. Usually it was not unanimous, so it was a subset of the user base. Given board demographics, it was probably mostly men, then, who had a complaint. So, were most rules on this board created because men were offended? Or was it because board members were offended?
Same thing here.