Limiting/flagging/forbidding post with content offensive to other members.

[Missy2U]

@Helena330

This is a big step and I really appreciate this. While I know what to expect in even clearly labeled threads, I’ll still report when humiliating and/or degrading women is involved and I hope others will do so, as well. That way the mods can begin to get a feel for what women may find inhospitable here.

Thank you.

Ditto for me.

Thanks, Mods!

[Fenris]

@raventhief

I think you missed a line there-
In the mod ruling:

Obviously a warning notice posted in every thread or title defeats the purpose of this guidance.

(I’m on my phone and I don’t feel like quoting and snipping)

:smack: I did miss that line. Sorry mods! Well done and disregard my earlier post.

[tnetennba]

Should women use trigger warnings when posting an opinion, as women having opinions seems to be quite triggering to some of the gents who post here?

[octopus]

@tnetennba

Should women use trigger warnings when posting an opinion, as women having opinions seems to be quite triggering to some of the gents who post here?

The ratio of possible cites that support your specific claim to the number of possible cites dismissing posts as mansplaining, etc. is probably close to zero.

[JRDelirious]

Mod decision seems to be quite adequate. Cases of deliberate provocative mislabeling can always be addressed through the procedure for jerk/troll behavior.

[puzzlegal]

Thanks, sounds like a good conclusion to me.

[JRDelirious]

ETA missed edit window: OTOH contrariness, compulsive oppositionality, snark, the urge to have the last word in, cutting parting shots and the compulsion to counter them, are just endemic behaviors to the whole discussion board universe. I fully expect them everywhere I go. It may at times be a challenge to resist it, but if someone snarks I am under no mandate to counter, parry or refute the snark, unless it is being trollish or spreads disinformation.

[Fenris]

@tnetennba

Should women use trigger warnings when posting an opinion, as women having opinions seems to be quite triggering to some of the gents who post here?

:rolleyes: If the women here start posting totally normal threads with innocuous titles and then insert perverted rape/incest/violence fantasies as a means to shock and creep out people, then by all means, yes.

[IvoryTowerDenizen]

@JRDelirious

Mod decision seems to be quite adequate.

Wahoo! We’re adequate!

[Chimera]

But what if I post a thread titled “Trigger Warning” and the thread is about Roy Roger’s horse?

[Czarcasm]

@Chimera

But what if I post a thread titled “Trigger Warning” and the thread is about Roy Roger’s horse?

Then the mods will modify your title to read “Trigger Warning[Warning: Not Trigger Warning]”.

[Penfeather]

Great mod work, thanks to all who listened and acted.

[RTFirefly]

@Bone

Speaking as a Moderator:

<snipped since it’s already been quoted in its entirety a few times>

Good call.

@Helena330

I’ll still report when humiliating and/or degrading women is involved and I hope others will do so, as well. That way the mods can begin to get a feel for what women may find inhospitable here.

I think this is essential. The mods will be able to get a better fix on the things you’re having problems with if they see enough for-instances. (ETA: That’s ‘you’ plural, since it was hardly just you (singular) that was feeling like the board was being inhospitable to women. I hope a goodly number of you contribute.)

It isn’t always easy to see the world through someone else’s eyes, and a lot of us guys aren’t going to even see that there’s a problem until it’s pointed out, and even then we’ll still need it explained to us as often as not.

@IvoryTowerDenizen

Wahoo! We’re adequate!

Glad to know we’ve kept the mods from having feelings of inadequacy.

[Penfeather]

@tnetennba

Should women use trigger warnings when posting an opinion, as women having opinions seems to be quite triggering to some of the gents who post here?

Stick to recipes and stain-removing hints and you should be fine.

[Missy2U]

@Penfeather

Stick to recipes and stain-removing hints and you should be fine.

Darnitall - I was composing a beautiful, well written, informative, yet hysterical post on the importance of hospital corners on your bed linens - scratch THAT now!!!

[Penfeather]

@Missy2U

Darnitall - I was composing a beautiful, well written, informative, yet hysterical post on the importance of hospital corners on your bed linens - scratch THAT now!!!

Her uterus is roaming her body and inflaming her brain, causing opinions!

[Measure_for_Measure]

@Bone

Speaking as a Moderator:

We have come to the conclusion that in certain instances, clear notice in either the title, or the beginning of the OP, or both, will be required to give people a heads up if a thread is going in a direction that includes explicit sexual material. Something akin to ‘[WARNING: Contains explicit sexual material]’. This is derived from the rule about clear thread labeling, as well as not being a jerk.

Kudos to the mods. This is entirely reasonable IMHO.

The 2012 Skald pit thread was resurrected due to this latest submission by Skald. Can I ask what sort of warning, if any, would be appropriate for it?

It does contain 2 women with same sex preferences with physical attraction to each other. They do not date because of their disagreement about over or under disclosure of their feelings (not about sex). Hypotheticals regarding proper social interaction (as opposed to philosophy) benefit from same sex (potential) romantic partners because the audience has symmetric expectations for each partner. Add heterosexuality to the mix and you might have to run 2 parallel hypotheticals.

In this example, reader feedback and recommendation might be different if the male advocates more bluntness or if the female does.

[D_Anconia]

@BlankSlate

Good heavens, is there a thread proposing that somewhere?

This very thread.

All women, all venting legitimate concerns about the same dismissiveness you’re showing about this?

Some of us aren’t about to ignore the degradation of women.

I can handle being offended. What I can’t handle, nor will I tolerate, is being degraded by virtue of my being a woman because a poster gets off on it.

But hey, why should the board care about female posters leaving in droves?

So you’re unable to engage unless the content includes totally gratuitous descriptions of abuse and dehumanization of women?

Yet by telling the numerous women here who have stated how offensive it is, especially in the context this poster does it, to just “ignore it”, you are, in fact, condoning it. And dismissing us.

And that’s just in the first page and a half. So a new policy was created because women, specifically, are offended.

How is that NOT sexist?

[Measure_for_Measure]

@D_Anconia

And that’s just in the first page and a half. So a new policy was created because women, specifically, are offended.

How is that NOT sexist?

Plenty of men found some of Skald’s material to be offensive as well.

[hajario]

I found it offensive and I am a man.