On the other hand, if every third black man he saw kidnapped him to chauffeur them, even* I *would say “Yeah, buddy, you go ahead and be a little bit racist. You, alone, have kind of earned it.”
Unfortunately, for women, the patriarchy is more like the latter case than your friend. It’s not a one-off thing. Or so women tell me, don’t take my word for it.
Sure, pal, women are being abducted by every third man they meet. :rolleyes:
Wow. I see why so many women just throw up their hands and walk away. You think it’s a war. Anyway, whatever.
You went from displaying a lot of anger toward women a year ago to the far extreme of being the Eternal White Knight. I would suggest that neither looks good on you.
‘War’ is the word you used, for whatever bullshit is in your head reasons. It isn’t in my mind, words or thoughts.
Wild exaggerations by you and MrDibble are not helping.
It’s OK to admit you don’t actually know how analogies work, Chimera. :rolleyes: right back atchya.
And I’m not your pal, friend.
I don’t accept MRA/Incel bias against women. I don’t accept bias against men.
Since there are consequences and one flawed study with a sample size of 86 doesn’t prove a goddamned thing.
Seriously? A sample of 86 kids in North Dakota and you’re throwing this out as proof of anything and an excuse for women to hate men? :dubious:
That’s just fucking dumb.
Thank you to the Moderation Staff for taking this seriously and working on a solution.
Prior to this I hadn’t read a Skald hypothetical in years because I found them tedious and boring. I have read a couple of them recently due to the controversy and those particular ones were gratuitously disgusting and at the very least bordering on misogyny. This is not the place for that.
Yes, I’ve tried to change. I thank this board for making me understand things like issues LGBT people face and then letting me share in their struggles. I tried to understand what it feels like to be told you ain’t getting a wedding cake because you’re a SS couple. I would feel pretty bad if that happened to me. The dismissive “it’s just a cake” crowd doesn’t get that it isn’t just a cake, it’s about equality. Being dismissive never allows you to see their position through their eyes. No need fort a war here.
Sure, I’ve laughed, like a jerk, at boob jokes because men train other men that da boobs are funny. I had no idea how women felt about men slobbering over their female specific threads, but I listened. And I tried to understand. If you listen long enough it becomes apparent that there is a problem and that you might be part of that problem, not the solution. Therein I’ve tried to accept that all people, white, black, male, female, young and old and everything in between have legitimate concerns about equality and fairness.
SWJ, thank you. If I help making women feel more comfortable on this board, then I am happy.
This isn’t a war. It shouldn’t be a war.
This is me saying that I don’t accept bigotry in any form and that means Misandry and anti-male bigotry, which we’ve seen displayed on this board even as those same people **rightfully **protest the misogyny they’re seeing from some posters… I’m sorry you don’t understand that and want to make my motives evil.
False equivalency fallacy.
Proves you don’t really have much of a science background, do you?
I could spend all day digging up cites for the percentage of men who say they’ll rape, or say theyhave raped. They’d all tell the same horrific story. But I can predict exactly what your response will be.
But you do, and you are. I asked you to explain what women mean by dismissiveness, and you couldn’t, or wouldn’t. I’m afraid you still see this as a M vs F thing. It’s really not, and you don’t need to push it there.
I’m asking someone to explain WHY they believe I’m being dismissive and what specifically they can point to and you’re asking me to explain their thinking.
I’ve said quite clearly that neither form of bigotry is acceptable. You’re trying to make it about me somehow being at war with women. Which is dismissive, divisive, distortion, incorrect and a personal attack directly at odds with what I’ve actually said.
I can’t discuss whether you are being dismissive unless we agree on what dismissive is. What do you think being dismissive is?
Pretty goddamned sad day on the dope when saying that no form of bigotry is acceptable results in two men insisting that one form is.
Do you feel that being told you are being dismissive is bigotry? What about being dismissive itself?
I see it as another iteration of the “it’s bigoted to not tolerate bigots” idiocy that pops up sometimes in racism threads, myself. See, it’s one thing if the women in that thread just came up with statements out of the blue - they don’t, they come up with them after they’ve been mansplained to, belittled and ignored. In that thread and for lifetimes before.
We were talking about dismissiveness, not bigotry. You realize there is a difference, right? Please, define dismissiveness for me. This is the last time I will ask, so being dismissive might work for you here.
In this context, she means “stop arguing”.
Regards,
Shodan
The person making the claim is responsible for defining or explaining why they believe the other person is acting that way, not the subject of the claim.
But I expect you’re just being disingenuous with pushing for me to explain it when I’ve already explained this process to you.