So I can go around blasting people with racial slurs all day and as long as they don’t belong to the particular group I’m trying to offend, it’s ok?
What imagery do you think the people trying to offend Asians are going for, Einstein?
Cervaise, you’re my hero. You and Sampiro are two of my favorite people on this message board. Just wanted to say that.
The funny thing about this thread is that it’s gone all over the place and has been very entertaining, and lissener still hasn’t read any of it. I’m sure he will, but he just hasn’t had a chance.
Fine by me. But then, I don’t really get being offended by mere words at all anyway.
Even that notwithstanding, are you really trying to tell us that you don’t see a difference between a white guy calling a black guy “nigger” and a white guy calling another white guy “nigger?”
Here’s a hint for you: one is widely considered offensive, the other is just dumb.
I can’t speak for Evil Captor, but I don’t buy it either and I don’t care one way or another about Henry Rollins’s sexual orientation (I’m not a fan). If the man isn’t publicly out then I’m not going to believe he’s gay just because some guy on the Internet says that his friend claims to have slept with him. It’s not a matter of what I “want to believe”, it’s just that I’m not that gullible.
I can easily believe that lissener is telling the truth about what his friend said, but I don’t see any reason to believe the friend’s story. He wouldn’t be the first person to lie about having sex with a celebrity, or to give this anonymous stranger the benefit of the doubt, he wouldn’t be the first person to be taken advantage of by a con artist who resembled a celebrity. I’d be pretty skeptical of one of my own friends claiming to have had sex with a closeted celeb.
Now, if you’d said “You just don’t want to believe that lissener is telling the truth” then I don’t think that would have been fair to Evil Captor either, but at least it would have made sense. But saying essentially “If you doubt a secondhand story about how an unnamed person you’ve never met had gay sex with a closeted celebrity, then obviously you just don’t want to believe!” is pretty silly.
I have a friend who was a drag queen in Indiana. But he’s not a celebrity.
I don’t either, but I can be offended by the intent behind a word. When Dave Chappelle used the n word, it was funny. When I hear some angry old redneck use it, it’s offensive. It’s all about context. Here, a community decision was made for us by the administrators not to use them, so it doesn’t matter what I think, it’s against the rules.
Sorry pal, they’re both widely considered offensive.
And going around calling people the term that Cervaise used, especially when not even knowing their race, tells me there is some underlying hatred going on there. It’s like Mel Gibson running around calling everybody a Jew, or Fred Phelps thinking everybody is gay. It’s also quite a bit like the Senator Allen moment - which garnered tons of derision around here, in case you don’t remember - in that I find it very hard to believe that he didn’t know exactly what he was saying.
Are you cynically seizing on a poor word choice to score points against someone you disagree with, or do you honestly believe someone intended to write “Various [Asian] knuckledraggers have had it in for lissener for years” as opposed to “Various [Neanderthal] knuckledraggers have had it in for lissener for years”? On what planet would the former be a sensible interpretation?
Considering how many times I’ve heard usage 1 compared to how many times I’ve heard usage 2, and considering how they are related, and considering the Asian friends I’ve had who have been picked on and beat up and smacked around and called fucking slopeheads and fucking zipperheads just because they looked different, it wasn’t hard for me to make the interpretation I did. Personal bias? Probably. Is it widely considered extremely offensive and used far more often in that context? Yes. Could he have removed all ambiguity and possibility for offense with two extra strokes of the keyboard? Yes.
Ask yourselves this: if the N word also meant Neanderthal, would it be any less offensive? And would it be ok for people to toss it around in the context of insulting someone (we’re not talking about an anthropology class here) as long as they claimed to be using it in that context?
Epitaphs???
Epithets!!!
blame my husband.
:rolleyes: Wrong, for a number of reasons I hope I don’t have to explain on a board full of literate people.
Why? Because the context of your sentence makes it clear that such a misinterpretation would have to be either remarkably obtuse or obviously intentional?
To be fair, he is worse than most. But to get “infuriated” over it is just lame. Kind of like this pitting. The guy claims to to have met a not very impressive list of celebrities. Even if he’s lying about every one, that’s really a reason to get pissed off?
Good job of actually coming off as more of a douche than lissener.
When i was growing up in Australia (1970s and 1980s), slopehead was a common slur used against Asians, most often Chinese or Vietnamese.
It seems to have fallen out of use, and the only other country i’ve ever heard it used was England. I’ve lived a combined 10 years in Canada and the US, and have never heard it used in North America.
Especially combined w/ “knuckledragging”.
Just throwing in on the totally off-topic conversation to note that I have never heard “slope-head” used as a slur against Asians, but have heard “slope-headed” used to denote cro-magnon or neanderthal characteristics.
Meanwhile, I am shocked, shocked and dismayed that Cisco is not defending the vertically challenged against the slur obviously implied by “knuckle-dragging.”
That’d be the Phallageally Effort Challenged. Get with it, y’all. It’s got a nice beat.