[QUOTE=Fuji]
Actually, I thought that the aliens were the main protagonists of the movie. To me, the human actors essentially served the role of flashy props.
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That’s the problem. None of the actors mentioned above would have allowed that to happen.
[QUOTE=Malacandra]
Surely the Bugs were antagonists? 
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I don’t wish to know more.
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]
He did get better. He seems to be slipping, though.
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In fairness, he gets tweaked about it on a semi-regular basis. I’m afraid I couldn’t point you to any examples, but Verhoeven and lissener’s opinion of him has become a running joke he’s been jabbed with not more than a few times with little provocation since his return.
I think lissener’s a douche and to a large extent brought it on himself, but I’ve seen some pokes at him that I didn’t think were wholly warranted. I’d probably get surly again too.
[QUOTE=BayleDomon]
I think lissener’s a douche and to a large extent brought it on himself, but I’ve seen some pokes at him that I didn’t think were wholly warranted. I’d probably get surly again too.
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There were two solid pages of evidence of active douchebaggery before anyone brought up Verhoeven.
[QUOTE=twickster]
There were two solid pages of evidence of active douchebaggery before anyone brought up Verhoeven.
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I meant since he was unbanned. Been several months since then, which is why I’m reticent about finding examples.
[QUOTE=BayleDomon]
I meant since he was unbanned. Been several months since then, which is why I’m reticent about finding examples.
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**Lissener ** was unbanned in October 2005.
While he does get twitted about Showgirls on occasion, in the ensuing 21 months he has been the subject of at least 6 Pittings, none of which had anything to do with his affection for Verhoeven. Most had to do with him being an asshole on entirely unrelated subjects.
Oh, so it’s been almost 2 years?
Does becoming unbanned grant special powers like being undead?
[QUOTE=Zebra]
Does becoming unbanned grant special powers like being undead?
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If lissener is any guide, they are certainly unable to see themselves as others see them.
[QUOTE=Zebra]
Oh, so it’s been almost 2 years?
Does becoming unbanned grant special powers like being undead?
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Indeed. Might I refer you to the cinematic classic, " 28 Lisseners Later " for guidance as to how to handle zombies?
[QUOTE=Hamlet]
Chaucer was a plagarizing piece of garbage.
“Béowulf maþelode, 'Ecgþéowes Nelyf s,élre bið aéghwaém úre aéghwylc sceal ende gebídan”
or, as translated:
"After the death of Grendel, Beowulf looked up and spied Grendel’s mother, after which he turned to Edgetheow and said “It’s just one damned dragon-thing after another.”
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Imitation, and not even flattering.
I notice that **lissener ** hasn’t been around since I last posted, and even though I disagree with him, think of him as abrassive and oppinionated, it’s still uncool to try to rile him about *Showgirls * and Verhoeven. If he’s being an asshole, then it won’t matter, if not - it’ll matter even less. I also think that his reinstatement included clauses about him not debating Verhoeven, but IMBW.
My POA is: Don’t bait him.
[QUOTE=Charlie Tan]
I notice that **lissener ** hasn’t been around since I last posted, …
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He is seriously, as mentioned in passing above posting by candlelight, or to be more accurate, posting when it’s slow at work.
There was for a short time after his reinstatement, a sort of unofficial one-off kind of rule about posters sneaking up behind him and shouting, “Verhoeven!” in his ear. That may be what you’re remembering.
[QUOTE=Frank]
There was for a short time after his reinstatement, a sort of unofficial one-off kind of rule about posters sneaking up behind him and shouting, “Verhoeven!” in his ear.
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Why I love the Dope, Part Six Bajillion and Three – it’s a place where there can be unofficial “No-Verhoeven-baiting” rules … instituted and respected.
[QUOTE=Frank]
There was for a short time after his reinstatement, a sort of unofficial one-off kind of rule about posters sneaking up behind him and shouting, “Verhoeven!” in his ear.
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That was no lissener-baiting – that was my Jerry Lewis impression!
Froinlavin!
Verhoeven’s sakes, will you quit picking on Lissener’s execrable tastes?! :smack:
[QUOTE=Polycarp]
Verhoeven’s sakes, will you quit picking on Lissener’s execrable tastes?! :smack:
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All I did was say to my wife, “That piece of halibut was good enough for Verhoven!”
THUD!!
[QUOTE=Colibri]
Showgirls is such an utterly perfect parody of a bad movie that only the cognoscenti are able to perceive that it is actually a masterpiece.
Anyone who does not agree with this is obviously a moron.
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and
[QUOTE=Colibri]
This is really classic lissener. He not only asserts that his opinion is the only possible valid one, he also accuses anyone who disagrees with him of calling him a liar.
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You’ve not got the full flavour. It’s not a matter of disagreeing. There is no room to disagree. Lissener has simply stated a fact. A given. It’s simply unbelievable that it is a fact you are not aware of. There’s no point arguing about it. He was there at the time and this was a given back then, and you are surely not suggesting he is lying about what occurred. There’s simply nothing to agree or disagree about, that debate has already occurred and been decided. The only thing left to do is state the outcome, which Lissener has. Sorry.
[QUOTE=Princhester]
You’ve not got the full flavour.
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Are you calling me a liar? :dubious:
Of course. What option do I have? You have simply stated an untruth. I’m a prisoner to the facts as they exist.
[QUOTE=twickster]
Why I love the Dope, Part Six Bajillion and Three – it’s a place where there can be unofficial “No-Verhoeven-baiting” rules … instituted and respected.
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No kidding. Back in the AOL days there was the " John Landis Corollary " and gosh, did people lose their head over that one !
:eek: