A third suspect, this one 20 years old, was arrested this afternoon.
This article from AL.com indicates that the three suspects should be having an initial bond hearing within 72 hours, and then a preliminary hearing in “the coming weeks.”
I need to stop reading message boards, because far too many people are saying that a kid named Philstavious (that was his legal name, not Philip/Phillip) couldn’t have been all that upstanding.
Stereotyping much, folks?
Not this message board, I presume. If so, please point me at 'em.
Do you actually mean message boards, or do you mean comments on other social media or on news sites?
You should see some of the garbage posted on YouTube.
Or better yet, don’t see it.
I’m sure there is. YouTube is not a message board. Lots of things are not message boards.
What I was asking was whether you’d seen it on actual message boards; and if so, anywhere on this one.
Okay, to be more precise, the comments section.
Ah. Yes, ‘do not read the comments’ is all too often good advice.
From that article:
- Of the three newly-charged individuals, two are twenty years old, and the third is 15; all of them were charged with four counts of reckless murder (similar to the three charged earlier this week)
- Court documents for the five who have been charged as adults* indicate that all of them are believed to have been firing handguns into the crowd at the party
- Officials indicate that they anticipate making additional arrests in the case
*- It seems like the newly-arrested 15-year-old has not yet been charged as an adult, but that may be coming
From the very beginning I was wondering if this was similar to calls I’ve been on. So far I’ve seen nothing that would contradict that. Some of the worst calls I’ve been on have been sweet 16 parties. They would be held in a local venue then word word spread around to other high schools in the area and it would be crashed by dozens if not hundreds of kids and adults who had nothing to do with the family holding the party. This happened before social media with flyers and now it’s even easier. Thankfully we never had any shootings but there was a lot of violence. Those arrested seem to live in multiple different towns and cities in the area but the family holding the party is from Dadeville.
So with the events you’ve had to clean up, was it more gang on gang, or neighborhood on neighorhood, or school on school? Said another way is this a group-on-group phenomenon or more an individual-on-individual event but occurring within a crowd.
Or just an excuse for too many individuals with too many intoxicants and violent habits to all converge in one venue until something inevitably triggers a one-on-one that promptly explodes into a many-on-many Battle Royale kinda like a saloon fight in a 1950s Western where the bad guy throws a sucker punch then suddenly there’s an all-hands melee going on? But unlike the Western, not using balsawood chairs and sugar glass bottles.
Seems likely to me that the chance of shootings – and of deaths – in such circumstances would go up according to the number of guns around.
Rnsk probably goes up at the square of the number of guns. 2x guns = 4x risk. 4x guns = 16x risk.
What I dealt with was mostly gang on gang. Or gang on wannabes. Most of the time the family didn’t even know anyone involved.
I don’t know the area this happened in. The only part of Alabama I know is UCLA (the area around Fort Rucker, Ugliest Corner of Lower Alabama). That’s a few hours away and a couple of decades from my experience. I don’t know if there is a gang problem. The mob mentality of purposely going somewhere you aren’t supposed to be coupled with youthful testosterone levels is a recipe for disaster. Adding guns makes it worse.
All speculation at this point. It may have been more personal than that.
That’s true. In general there are fewer guns floating around NJ. Soon to change with the current Supreme Court rulings. However the neighboring town where a lot of these party crashers came from is a violent area with a lot of gang activity. It wouldn’t surprise me if there were guns present and we just got lucky.
Are you from the region, or another one where these are a custom?
Gotta say, in many cases, if there’s even the slightest hint that alcohol may be available, some teenagers (and adults too) don’t care what else is going on or who is there.
Sweet sixteen parties? Yes they are very common here but not universal.
My parents were never big on celebrations or parties, but my sister wanted a Sweet Sixteen, the kind where they had it in a ballroom, etc. and her 17th birthday came and went before my parents heard the end of it.
Around here with a large Hispanic population quinceañeras are more common. There’s a whole industry around them. None of them (knock wood) have led to a mass shooting.
Several years ago, my credit union had a big sign advertising loans for vacations, weddings, and quinceaneras. (If my area had a large Jewish population, they would probably promote the same thing for bar and bat mitzvahs.) High interest, of course.
A few years before that, a mainstream magazine (IIRC People, before it became a total celebrity gossip rag) had a big piece about girls in areas with large Jewish populations who wanted “bat mitzvahs” even though they weren’t Jewish, and knew that their wealthy parents would throw a shindig and that many of their classmates were just using them to get invitations, and nobody really cared as long as the money was green.