Apparently it is all our fault.
Where this is going on he doesn’t say.
He also said the attacks will continue.
What’s the debate here?
Do his statements have any validity?
Will the attacks continue, and if so where?
He was a muslim.
There are many muslims across the world suffering due to the actions of the British government.
The British government represents the British people.
Therefore, the British people are responsible for muslims suffering across the world.
There will be more attacks, but not for a while.
Canada or Italy may be next.
Here is the complete text from the video:
London bomber said:
Well shut the fuck up then. Oh you’re going to speak anyway. Darn, you got my hopes up there for a minute.
Eh? What do you care what the media thinks? And aren’t you trying to “scare the masses into conforming to your agenda”?
No you’re not, you’re not forsaking anything. You’re entering paradise.
Y’know, I know lots of muslims and I never met a bunch of people more into tangible commodities. They all have (and are insanely proud of) the latest tiny phones to come on the market and laptop/dvd players and other gadjets.
I, on the other hand, am not a muslim and I have absolutely no tangible commodities at all, and don’t want any. OK I own a prehistoric phone that someone gave me for free but I never use it. I don’t even own this computer I’m typing on. I don’t actually own anything except a few shitty clothes and a bike I’ve had since Pennyfarthing days. I don’t want anything either - I hate possessions, they just tie you down.
So it seems that one’s religion is not a good indicator of whether you’re into “tangible commodities”.
So do your unelected dictatorial governments. So it would seem that the democratic nature of such governments or otherwise is not really a factor. And anyway, stop trying to link all “democratically elected governments” together and pretend they are all acting as one force. The “democratically elected government” in Russia may be oppressing the Chechens but that’s got fuck all to do with the “democratically elected government” of, say, Belgium. Or even the one in America.
Go and do a degree in International Politics and History and come back when you know something about it, oh sorry you can’t.
What? Even if I didn’t vote for them? What do you want me to do - start a revolution just because the party I didn’t vote for got in this time round?
I haven’t bombed, gassed, imprisoned or tortured anyone. Although I’d like to have done all four to you. And anyway, who has my government gassed recently? Or indeed tortured (apart from some extremely mild cases of mistreatment in prison). You wanna see torture you should head over to have a look at some of the governments in the muslim world. That’s why we won’t send any of the radical preachers back there - because they’d be tortured.
No you are at war, we just think you’re a criminal (and an idiot). If we were really at war, then you’d know about it. If we went to war with you on the same terms as you are at war with us then presumably you would think it would be ok for us to attack civilians, since that’s what you do. We could say that all muslims are guilty because they support the ideology that you identify with, and then kill them. This is exactly the same argument you use regarding “democratic governments” and our support for them.
Ah who cares, they don’t listen anyway.
I watched the video a short while ago, or at least the portion of it the BBC chose to show…and I find it very disconcerting. We’re familiar with these videos, but to see one where you don’t need subtitles or a translation is, for most of us, a new experience. What’s more, he seemed just as he was desribed by the people who knew him: an ordinary guy, who had somehow picked up some very strange views, which had been nurtured and cultivated by others. This wasn’t a video of a battle-hardened warrior. Whatever it is, it’s not that.
It’s the self-important, self-centred rant of a miserable little fart, whose life was so insignificant and empty that he threw it away.
His identification with being an “oppressed muslim” is the only thing that validated him. Despite living in a country where the standard of living in the prisons is higher than the global average, he liked to think of himself as part of an oppressed brotherhood. That way he could blame every little percieved inadequacy in his life on his “oppressors”.
The tube bombers didn’t have to kill themselves. They could have carried out their attack the way the police originally thought they did - drop and run. These pricks wanted to die. It made them feel important. Thinking about people watching his video after his death was probably the greatest joy in the little skidmark’s life.
“I and thousands like me have forsaken everything for what we believe.”
Get real. You forsook nothing, because you had nothing. You were a walking waste of volume, a misanthropic abdicator of responsibility. Thousands like you? Not here, pal. It took years for a few dismal little losers like you with crude home-made explosives to cause less mayhem than a good motorway pile-up, and you didn’t even attempt to get away with it alive! A true warrior would be disgusted.
Yeah, that’s what unsettled me the most… the fact that you’re hearing these words in a West Yorkshire accent from a man who worked with underprivillaged kids. 