Lost 2.17: "Lockdown"

Two men enter, one man eats?

Does anyone read ABC’s diary entries? Is it considered cannon?
This one is interesting but I don’t know wether to assign it any weight or not.

Nope. I was thinking the same thing.

What do you mean “they”? Jack was one of the original people who found it.

OK, prediction time: Locke will eventually help Henry Gale escape, especially now that he knows he is one of The Others. Here’s why. Locke wants to stay on the island and he wants peaceful relations with Zeke’s gang. Remember, he’s the one that tried to convince Jack not to form th army. Live and let live. The only quesiton I have is whether or not Gale will learn that Sun is pregnant, although I strongly suspect he will.

Another annotated pic of the map.

Well, when Kate was saying she wanted to take a shower, I definitely got the impression she was hoping that Jack would volunteer to scrub her back…

I think there is one vital question that no one has asked - Why would someone scribble these notes on the door in uv reactive ink??? Why not the paper, or on the real walls. We haven’t seen reams of paper but we have seen books which could be used. Why the inside of the blast door in uv ink?

Someone above suggested it was a continuing work done every time the door came down but it seems more likely to me to be the works of someone trapped. I mean, if the doors came down and stayed down for X days, it could cause someone to need this outlet.

I don’t think it was Desmond, my guess is that it was the guy before him.

If he won’t, I will!

Simple enough question:

Locke said “I didn’t do it for the money” - then why did he do it? Certainly not to help his dad out.

Seems to me the most reasonable thing would’ve been to take all of it and run - reasonable payback.

I disagree. Why entangle yourself with shady underworld characters about which you know nothing? The reasonable thing to do would be to tell dear ol’ dad to go jump in a lake, then make sure you never contact him or are contacted by him again.

Remember though. Locke was kind of a puss before he got on the island.

That big standoff scene would have been out of character.

Locke didn’t become a tough guy until he looked into the eye of the island.

I think he should’ve given the money to the two thugs, told them where his dad was hiding, and asked them to bring back his kidney.

It doesn’t seem too odd to me. The obits is one of the firsts things I read when I crack open the paper. The only thing I read before that is big flashy articles that catch my eye while I am flipping to the obit section.

All the more reason to run like the little wuss he was. You don’t involved with mobsters unless you have a real good reason to.

There was only black/uv light available for a period of time when the map was visible to Locke. Why? Good question. If someone was in there with the blast doors down (whether voluntarily or not) during a prolonged period when black/uv light was the only light available, the only way they’d be able to see something scribbled anywhere would be if it was visible in black/uv light.

Maybe some of the books and records have also been scribbled on…

Maybe the Dharma blacklightbulbs come packaged with Dharma blacklight pens…

Well, not necessarily. If it went down the way I proposed, then it could be that Locke was attempting to find his testicles and really stand up to his father, and Helen catches the lie and leaves him anyway, then that’s a big life lesson to not do that again. So it could be a tentative moment of bravery that bites him in the ass.

Of course, it didn’t play out that way, so it’s an irrelevant what-if. It’s just that I would have liked it better, possibly for my own reasons, as said.

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RE: Locke delivering the money for reasons other than money.

I thought it was simply because he’s a nice guy who cares for his father. Period. He tells him in the car that he could have just asked him for the kidney, he didn’t have to trick him. Same here. His dad asked, he does. Simple.

John’s just not the kind of guy to cheat a guy, threaten a guy or sic the mob on a guy. Pre-island John, anyway. I have the feeling we may see a Locke of a different color before this story’s done.

Or maybe whomever was drawing this didn’t want the other person in the hatch to know that he was doing it.

(Also, re: paper, Henry Gale had to draw the map to his balloon on a page ripped out from one of the books, so it looks like blank paper doesn’t exist on the island.)

Not necessarily. Ana Lucia and Henry just didn’t have immediate access to any.

(bolding mine)
Actually, IIRC it was the car that Kate hit with Tom’s car after the cops shot him.

I don’t believe the car means anything, really. But I think it is intentional. Just a wink from producers to we screen-cap-happy fans. Like someone said upthread of how all numbers are the numbers, and all jets are Oceanic flights, etc. All - well, many - cars are “the car.”

Well, if that’s true (that the smoke-monster and the TCM are one and the same), then IMO that’s a gigantic cop-out. The entire first season emphasized the HUGENESS of this thing, and it pulls trees right out of the ground! And it casts a lumbering, very monster-like shadow on the cockpit of the plane! Although I (reluctantly) agree that the Eko episode appears to prove this, I’m convinced there has to be more to it. Or at least that there was initially, until the writers chickened out because they couldn’t think of something that was five stories tall and invisible, without it being silly.

Am I all alone in this?

Oh, come on people! Have you all forgotten that plenty of other things glow under UV light?

No need for special pens, when the guy in the hatch comes already equipped with one, so to speak. :slight_smile: