Lost 4.07: "Ji Yeon"

I’m thinking someone got the 2-year thing from looking at the kid named Aaron (presumeably Claire’s, possibly Kate’s).

Yes, but it’s clear that the other flashwards are at different times. Nothing special about that one episode, and although time does appear to move differently on and off Island, there seems to have been only about 1 day difference so far, as was pointed out earlier.

Jin? He has a grave in Korea, so maybe he gets killed after he’s rescued.

Maybe he was the one in the coffin at the end of last season. He goes to America on some business, perhaps looking for a house or something, he gets killed, Sun is too pregnant to fly, and the body is sent home for burial.

I don’t think so. He seemed like a thug initially, in Sun’s flashback, but then his own flashback changed the impression. He had to take the job because it was the only way he could marry her, giving up his dream of owning his own hotel, he hated the things he had to do, and was looking for a way out.

And he went to the hospital on business, but spoke about his own wife with love, and seemed to hope he would be a father one day.

But why are they after him? Are they after him in order to punish him for his wickedness … or to recruit him as an ally? I suspect the latter.

Okay, maybe I’ve been watching this show for too long and going a bit nuts. Is it possible that there is a camera at the gravestone/memorial for Jin that would allow Sun to communicate with him back on the island?

They had all those hidden cameras all over this island, spying on everyone. I know it’s far-fetched, but it might explain Hurley saying, “let’s go see him.”

His tombstone said he died Sept. 22, 2004, the day of the crash. So that seems unlikely.

Heh. That’s so crazy, it just might be right :).

yes to all. an ROV would be the only way a search team could even attempt to make a body count (which reminds me. no way in hell would pictures of ANY BODIES be shown on television like that, but i digress. and this is lost, after all).

i don’t recall if they said how deep the trench was, but i agree it was way beyond the reach of even technical divers on special mix (calling scubaben for better info. i’m just a warm water rec diver). and, there is not no way not no how those bodies could be recovered, which prevents any cursory examinations - let alone autopsies. we don’t have that kind of applicable technology for a recovery that large. think kursk, folks.

my money’s on a dual timeline as already WAG’d by someone up-thread. that ***is * ** 815, just not our 815. :wink:

If that were the case why would the pilot be a fake, as confirmed by Frank?

Bet they could for about 20 minutes! :wink:

chaos theory! :smiley:

I had the same thoughts, I just didn’t post them because I didn’t want people to tell me I was crazy. :stuck_out_tongue: You’re not alone.

Just once though.

That would be unprecedented, wouldn’t it?

He means the tape that Ben showed Locke in a recent episode - it was labelled Red Sox, which Ben said he’d taped over.
All this discussion about the count of the corpses is moot. The plane crashed into the middle of the ocean - I’m guessing deep trenches aren’t right next to islands but I may be wrong on that. The finding of any survivors after a mid-ocean crash after at least several weeks is completely implausible - it would have to blow the conspiracy to fake the wreck wide open. Any squabbling about the details of the body count is over minor, irrelevant details - the existance of the fake wreck and the Oceanic 6 can’t plausibly be reconciled.

Completely wrong. The Marianas Islands and the Marianas Trench are part of the same tectonic action and are literally right on top of each other. In the Pacific every deep trench is associated with an archipelago.

Totally disagree. So long as the Oceanic Six keep their mouths shut about The Island, which they obviously are doing, the rescuers could easily report that they were picked up anywhere in order to gibe with the cover story that is concocted.

My theory is that their main objective is Jacob, and capturing Ben is simply a preliminary step to contacting Jacob. Why else would they bring Miles along? It certainly wasn’t for his charming personality. It’s because he can talk to spirits.

Regarding Miles, I’m wondering if maybe he’s connected to Sun’s father, Mr. Paik. The amount of money he wants from Ben is oddly specific (as Ben himself pointed out) which makes me think that he, or his family, is in debt and needs that amount of money to bail themselves out. Maybe his family and Mr. Paik were engaged in some sort of illegal financial transaction (manipulating the stock market, perhaps) and the watch that Jin was delivering contained information that was crucial to pulling off the scam. Because the watch was never delivered, the scam failed, and Mr. Paik lost millions of dollars. 3.2 million dollars, to be exact, and he wants Miles’ family to pay him back. Or Else :eek: The Hanso Foundation, thru Matthew Abbadon, has offered to pay Miles $3.2MM in exchange for his services, but Miles isn’t picky about where the money comes from, so if Ben will give it to him then it’s all good in his book.

Someone pointed out a while back that the “flashforwards” seem to be moving “backwards”, ie: the end of Season 3 has the latest flashfoward, and they have all been sequentially earlier since, moving back towards the event of leaving the island.

The flashforwards refer to events such as Jack saying he thinks he grow a beard, Hurley being insane then being sane (was it mentioned what the trigger was for this BTW?) and such things.

I got the impression the “latest in time” flashback was circa 2007, ie: 3 years later (I’m not sure if its ever been mentioned though), though I’m not really sure why. However, I seem to be getting the impression that the timeline is weird but possibly for no reason, or possibly because the times of the flashforwards have confused me…

Jay-zuz Christ, THANK YOU.

-Joe