[QUOTE=John Mace]
Oh, OK. But why does it have to be 2 years? As already noted, it’ anywhere from 7 months to close to present day (Through the Looking Glass). I’m thinking that each flashforward is a little closer to exit day from The Island, and I’m hoping this week’s episode tells us at least something about why the Oceanic 6 got off and not everyone else.
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I’m thinking someone got the 2-year thing from looking at the kid named Aaron (presumeably Claire’s, possibly Kate’s).
[QUOTE=Hampshire]
I’m thinking someone got the 2-year thing from looking at the kid named Aaron (presumeably Claire’s, possibly Kate’s).
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Yes, but it’s clear that the other flashwards are at different times. Nothing special about that one episode, and although time does appear to move differently on and off Island, there seems to have been only about 1 day difference so far, as was pointed out earlier.
[QUOTE=Dante]
Am I missing someone? I thought we were going to find out who the last of the Oceanic 6 were. So far I have:
Jack
Hurley
Kate
Sayid
Sun
Who’s the sixth?
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Jin? He has a grave in Korea, so maybe he gets killed after he’s rescued.
Maybe he was the one in the coffin at the end of last season. He goes to America on some business, perhaps looking for a house or something, he gets killed, Sun is too pregnant to fly, and the body is sent home for burial.
[QUOTE=AndyPolley]
I think Jin’s flashback was meant to remind us of where he came from, up to the ‘present’ on the Island–where he is. He was impatient, driven and uncaring, dedicated to his job before his wife.
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I don’t think so. He seemed like a thug initially, in Sun’s flashback, but then his own flashback changed the impression. He had to take the job because it was the only way he could marry her, giving up his dream of owning his own hotel, he hated the things he had to do, and was looking for a way out.
And he went to the hospital on business, but spoke about his own wife with love, and seemed to hope he would be a father one day.
[QUOTE=The Tof]
I know somebody else pointed it out, but this is inaccurate…
Captain said that Widmore went through great expense to get the box. Can you imagine the cost it took to fake ane ntire plane crash? Can you imagine why you would do such a thing? More disturbing, can you imagine where you would get all those dead bodies? This is just one reason why we are after Benjamin Linus.
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But why are they after him? Are they after him in order to punish him for his wickedness … or to recruit him as an ally? I suspect the latter.
Okay, maybe I’ve been watching this show for too long and going a bit nuts. Is it possible that there is a camera at the gravestone/memorial for Jin that would allow Sun to communicate with him back on the island?
They had all those hidden cameras all over this island, spying on everyone. I know it’s far-fetched, but it might explain Hurley saying, “let’s go see him.”
[QUOTE=Peter Morris]
Jin? He has a grave in Korea, so maybe he gets killed after he’s rescued.
Maybe he was the one in the coffin at the end of last season. He goes to America on some business, perhaps looking for a house or something, he gets killed, Sun is too pregnant to fly, and the body is sent home for burial.
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His tombstone said he died Sept. 22, 2004, the day of the crash. So that seems unlikely.
[QUOTE=cinehead]
Okay, maybe I’ve been watching this show for too long and going a bit nuts. Is it possible that there is a camera at the gravestone/memorial for Jin that would allow Sun to communicate with him back on the island?
They had all those hidden cameras all over this island, spying on everyone. I know it’s far-fetched, but it might explain Hurley saying, “let’s go see him.”
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Heh. That’s so crazy, it just might be right :).
[QUOTE=NajaNivea]
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t they state this was the case? The plane was too deep in the trench and it would be too difficult to actually recover the bodies. I think this was made clear when the news footage was shown.
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yes to all. an ROV would be the only way a search team could even attempt to make a body count (which reminds me. no way in hell would pictures of ANY BODIES be shown on television like that, but i digress. and this is lost, after all).
i don’t recall if they said how deep the trench was, but i agree it was way beyond the reach of even technical divers on special mix (calling scubaben for better info. i’m just a warm water rec diver). and, there is not no way not no how those bodies could be recovered, which prevents any cursory examinations - let alone autopsies. we don’t have that kind of applicable technology for a recovery that large. think kursk, folks.
my money’s on a dual timeline as already WAG’d by someone up-thread. that ***is * ** 815, just not our 815. 
[QUOTE=Scubaqueen]
my money’s on a dual timeline as already WAG’d by someone up-thread. that ***is * ** 815, just not our 815.
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If that were the case why would the pilot be a fake, as confirmed by Frank?
[QUOTE=Scubaqueen]
…but i agree it was way beyond the reach of even technical divers on special mix …
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Bet they could for about 20 minutes!
[QUOTE=Omniscient]
If that were the case why would the pilot be a fake, as confirmed by Frank?
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chaos theory! 
[QUOTE=cinehead]
Okay, maybe I’ve been watching this show for too long and going a bit nuts. Is it possible that there is a camera at the gravestone/memorial for Jin that would allow Sun to communicate with him back on the island?
They had all those hidden cameras all over this island, spying on everyone. I know it’s far-fetched, but it might explain Hurley saying, “let’s go see him.”
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I had the same thoughts, I just didn’t post them because I didn’t want people to tell me I was crazy. 
You’re not alone.
[QUOTE=Astroboy14]
Bet they could for about 20 minutes!
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Just once though.
[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]
Just once though.
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That would be unprecedented, wouldn’t it?
[QUOTE=Rilchiam]
It was '06 in our time when Jack was shown the video of the '04 series, was it not?
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He means the tape that Ben showed Locke in a recent episode - it was labelled Red Sox, which Ben said he’d taped over.
All this discussion about the count of the corpses is moot. The plane crashed into the middle of the ocean - I’m guessing deep trenches aren’t right next to islands but I may be wrong on that. The finding of any survivors after a mid-ocean crash after at least several weeks is completely implausible - it would have to blow the conspiracy to fake the wreck wide open. Any squabbling about the details of the body count is over minor, irrelevant details - the existance of the fake wreck and the Oceanic 6 can’t plausibly be reconciled.
[QUOTE=SenorBeef]
All this discussion about the count of the corpses is moot. The plane crashed into the middle of the ocean - I’m guessing deep trenches aren’t right next to islands but I may be wrong on that.
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Completely wrong. The Marianas Islands and the Marianas Trench are part of the same tectonic action and are literally right on top of each other. In the Pacific every deep trench is associated with an archipelago.
Totally disagree. So long as the Oceanic Six keep their mouths shut about The Island, which they obviously are doing, the rescuers could easily report that they were picked up anywhere in order to gibe with the cover story that is concocted.
[QUOTE=Peter Morris]
But why are they after him? Are they after him in order to punish him for his wickedness … or to recruit him as an ally? I suspect the latter.
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My theory is that their main objective is Jacob, and capturing Ben is simply a preliminary step to contacting Jacob. Why else would they bring Miles along? It certainly wasn’t for his charming personality. It’s because he can talk to spirits.
Regarding Miles, I’m wondering if maybe he’s connected to Sun’s father, Mr. Paik. The amount of money he wants from Ben is oddly specific (as Ben himself pointed out) which makes me think that he, or his family, is in debt and needs that amount of money to bail themselves out. Maybe his family and Mr. Paik were engaged in some sort of illegal financial transaction (manipulating the stock market, perhaps) and the watch that Jin was delivering contained information that was crucial to pulling off the scam. Because the watch was never delivered, the scam failed, and Mr. Paik lost millions of dollars. 3.2 million dollars, to be exact, and he wants Miles’ family to pay him back. Or Else :eek: The Hanso Foundation, thru Matthew Abbadon, has offered to pay Miles $3.2MM in exchange for his services, but Miles isn’t picky about where the money comes from, so if Ben will give it to him then it’s all good in his book.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
Yes, but it’s clear that the other flashwards are at different times. Nothing special about that one episode, and although time does appear to move differently on and off Island, there seems to have been only about 1 day difference so far, as was pointed out earlier.
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Someone pointed out a while back that the “flashforwards” seem to be moving “backwards”, ie: the end of Season 3 has the latest flashfoward, and they have all been sequentially earlier since, moving back towards the event of leaving the island.
The flashforwards refer to events such as Jack saying he thinks he grow a beard, Hurley being insane then being sane (was it mentioned what the trigger was for this BTW?) and such things.
I got the impression the “latest in time” flashback was circa 2007, ie: 3 years later (I’m not sure if its ever been mentioned though), though I’m not really sure why. However, I seem to be getting the impression that the timeline is weird but possibly for no reason, or possibly because the times of the flashforwards have confused me…
[QUOTE=SenorBeef]
All this discussion about the count of the corpses is moot. The plane crashed into the middle of the ocean - I’m guessing deep trenches aren’t right next to islands but I may be wrong on that. The finding of any survivors after a mid-ocean crash after at least several weeks is completely implausible - it would have to blow the conspiracy to fake the wreck wide open. Any squabbling about the details of the body count is over minor, irrelevant details - the existance of the fake wreck and the Oceanic 6 can’t plausibly be reconciled.
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Jay-zuz Christ, THANK YOU.
-Joe