Lost 4.9: "The Shape of Things to Come"

I don’t have a link, but I think I remember the producers saying in the past that Adam and Eve play a big role in the entire show. Of course, as mentioned earlier, all of it is subject to change, but I’m holding out hope that they’ll get to that towards the very end.

I was saying “Yay!” as in “Hooray!” as in the opposite of “Boo!” for the smoke monster not “Yes! The smoke monster!”.

This site agrees with my use of “yay”.

I’ve heard the same. I think Adam and Eve fit into the “fits into one of the others but we don’t know it” sub-category. More and more, I think they are two characters who know who are victims of time travel.

Hopefully not Nikki and Paulo.

Who are Adam and Eve?

I think they’re the two skeletons in the cave with the bag of black and white stones from way back in early season 1.

Why hopefully? I’d hate to think that that episode was a bottle episode and nothing more. It was disturbing and, on the face of it, random. Why shouldn’t it have a purpose?

:rolleyes:

I’ve stopped looking for any type of logic or consistency and am just enjoying the roller-coaster ride. It’s much less aggravating this way. I hope the smoke monster becomes a Gold Dragon in the next episode, squaring off against Jacob the Arch-Angel/Chimera on the beach in an apocalyptic battle that determines the fate of the world, during which Claire will continue asking, “How will this affect my bye-bee?!”

I don’t think Ben controls the smoke monster. That critter’s been itchin’ to get into the compound for a while; what Ben did was disable the electric fence that kept it out, knowing that it would go on a rampage at first chance. Which is why he told everyone to run away fast.
Locke and Sawyer…hm. It might have been a regular power struggle once, but now they’re reversing roles, as Sawyer becomes more concerned with others as he finds the family he never had, and Locke becomes more tunnel-visioned on his own survival, as he rejects the idea of family, his own having been so bad.

Alex had already turned the fence off to let in the bad guys. Also, I wouldn’t think you would have to go into a secret tunnel/cave just to turn on/off fence.

Who are Nikki and Paulo?

No one is offering an analysis of this week’s title? Surely there is something to it? It couldn’t be so straight forward.

Nikkie and Paulo were lovers and diamond thieves. They were buried alive on the island. From Lostpedia: Nikki Paulo

Could be. I realize that with the episodes that have already been broadcast it doesn’t work. When Ben gets dumped in the desert, it seems that Nadia is already dead.

However, I no longer underestimate the lengths to which Ben will reach to achieve his objectives. Ben apparently got transported to the desert from someplace cold – the listening station? Ben could’ve made the arrangements to have Nadia killed from there.

I’m not wed to the theory, but it seems like this would be something that would appeal to the writers – adding yet another level of machinations to Ben’s maniacal methods.

The numbers! I don’t want these ubiquitous digits to end up being just a MacGuffin.

Apropos of nothing, I never have understood the nearly unanimous dislike of Nikki and Paulo. The buried alive episode is one of my favorites, maybe perhaps because it was a stand-alone sub-plot that had nothing to do with the story arc.

I feel the same way about the X-Files comedy episode about a cockroach infestation. (after a quick search, titled “War of the Coprophages”).

I guess it’s just me.

I agree. It was one of my favorites as well. I loved the Twilight Zone vibe. I didn’t like the characters but I don’t think we were supposed to.

I love that collapsible baton of Ben’s. It’s the same kind that Agent 355 used in Y: The Last Man. It must have been Brian K Vaughn’s idea to give one to Ben. He is still writing for Lost, right?

I still see his name as a producer.

I also agree. I like the occasional “stand alone” episode like the X-files used to do. The one about Desmond and Penny could have been a movie. But the Nikki and Paolo one was good too.

What I really enjoyed about the Nikki and Paulo episode was how it took these two characters that people complained came clumsily out of nowhere and were never really integrated into the story or made good use of, and managed to fairly skillfully weave details of their actions into flashbacks to various previous episodes we’d already seen, justifying their existence by at least giving the idea that it had all along had been building up to this nice little morality play culmination episode, even if it hadn’t actually been planned that way at all (I have no idea if it was or not).