Whidmore Home Pregnancy Test?! So he’s the head of Evil, Incorporated, Thugs R Us, Time-Travel and Psychic Research Co AND has a thriving diaper and baby products business? I suppose diversification IS the wave of the 21st century.
You’d think that if the pregnancy problem was obviously Otherization related/correlated, then they’d know or at least suspect that as being a major potential cause. I mean, they know that Ethan was conceived and born on the Island. And Ben told them that he was born on the island. But in Juliet’s era, they seem to think it’s something that will affect everyone, including Claire and the other preggy women, and Juliet seems to be searching for a purely medical answer.
(Speaking of which, weren’t there several pregnant women on the Island at the end of Season 3? I forget, actually, but I seem to remember them marking three tents: that’s Sun and… who else? And what happened to these other expectant mothers who stayed on the Island and didn’t escape? Flaming arrows of death for all?)
I think the pregnancy problems is the Island/Jacob punishing Ben for his wrong choices. Widmore’s reaction to both Richard bringing in Ben and Ben bringing in Alex seems to imply that the kidnappings employed by the Others is a new practice. Presumably it’s in response to the fact that they can’t reproduce anymore.
Those were fake marking to lead the others to the dynamite.
More evidence: during the Lockdown during the Henry Gale stuff, Locke gets his legs smooshed AGAIN while trying to get to the Button. I really think the Island doesn’t want the Button pushed and more importantly, doesn’t want Locke worrying about the button
What about Desmond telling Charlie about his vision of Claire & Aaron getting on the helicopter & being rescued??? That was the reason why Charlie realized he had to die…
Was Desmond’s vision wrong? Or did he lie to Charlie because he knew it would be the only way he could reunite with Penny?
I love Locke. He’s my all time favorite character, no question. (Soft spot for Mr. Eko, that sucked.) Don’t diss him.
THe producers have said that they will address the “magic box” in a future episode. As far as using him against Locke, as we saw in the Paulo episode, Ben likes to “find out what someone cares about and use it to exploit them”. In Locke’s case that was his Daddy.
There seems to be two lists, the initial list that Ben asks Ethan and Goodwin to make which is just a list of the survivors, and the “who to capture” list that it’s implied was made by Jacob. We saw this in effect with the Tailies, but in the case of the main survivors, Ethan was found out before he had a chance to make a survivor list or get a “good Jacob list” from which to start kidnapping people. As we also saw, kidnapping Claire was a desperate impulsive move on his part and not officially sanctioned, though the Others did keep her until Alex helped her escape. And “Good” is implied to mean whatever quality it is Jacob thinks is a preresiquite for Otherhood.
Question!
How come so many DHARMA stations appear to be on the ‘Hostile’ side of the island? Several of the stations are located in places accessible from the beach that the survivors crashed on without having to walk through the brain-liquefying fence. Building those stations would seem like quite a violation of the 1970’s era truce. So… how? Or do we not know?
This is what happens when I skip a podcast.
I hope there’s more to it than that. While I agree this is a possible explanation, it doesn’t justify all of the trouble the producers went to to set it up. And it doesn’t justify all the trouble the Others went to to abduct Cooper.
There’s two Lockes though: there’s the indecisive (and still obsessive) weenie emo guy from pre-season 1 (the flashback stuff) and late season 2 and all of season 3, and the super-cool uber-zen Locke of season 1, first half of season two and apparently season 5. I’m comfortable dissing the weenie Locke, but excluding Hurley, Zen-Locke is my favorite character as well.
Another maybe-maybe-not plothole unfortunately. At this point, there’s really no way that Desmond’s claimed vision could come to pass as he saw it: even if Claire is alive, Aaron is fairly obviously no longer a wee baby. And yet as far as we know, Charlie died the way he was “supposed to.” So why didn’t the choppa thing happen the way Desmond saw it? Alternatively, doesn’t he feel guilty about lying?
Locke is my favorite character also, and that includes weenie emo Locke. I feel an enormous amount of sympathy for him when he’s a sad, naive, dorky guy, mostly because I think he was treated badly all around and got a shit deal from life until he got to the island. Of our major characters (Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Locke, Sayid), Locke is the only one who was really never an asshole and still isn’t. I think Sawyer has grown up, and I’ve always liked Sayid even when he was killing people for pay, but Locke was always basically a good guy who wanted to do the right thing, a rare commodity indeed amongst the broken people who wound up on Oceanic 815. It’s nice to see someone who was so pathetic and abused be lifted up and vindicated, despite every attempt by life (and Ben Linus) to keep him down.
I think the producers got a lot of story value - especially when you factor in “The Brig” in which we discover that Cooper is the original “Sawyer” and James confronts him. I think we have to wait for more info on the ‘magic box’ before we get a sense of how much trouble kidnapping Cooper was. The thing that bothers me about the storyline is that Locke has so much trouble killing him that he has to get Sawyer to do it for him, but throws an ax in Naomi’s back like there’s nothing to it shortly after.
I thought we already knew that, but I’m not sure, and don’t have time to look right now. Anyway, they definitely got what they could out of it, but they just let it drop.
I suspect the magic box was just a bullshit story Ben told. We’ll see, I guess.
Yeah. It bugs me too, although I suspect that may be *why * Locke had to take responsibility for offing Cooper, even if he didn’t do it himself. Doing so desensitized him, to some extent. And of course, he’d also beaten Mikhail nearly to deat and been shot and left for dead in the Dharma genocide pit by then. Things like that will change a guy’s perspective.
Killing Anthony was just revenge. Killing Naomi was to protect the island.
Random observation: I know the clickety part of the smoke monster sounds were based off taxi cab receipt printers, but I was outside last night and there was a raccoon in the bushes and boy did it make those same exact sounds. It was very eerie to suddenly hear smoke monster noises coming from the bushes!
I imagine it’s harder to kill your father, even if he is an evil douchebag like Cooper, than to kill a stranger you consider a threat, like Naomi.
Heh.
Just saw the episode where Hurley beats the crap outta Sawyer. Hurley is so very much my favorite character. Grown-up Sawyer, non-emo/luser Locke, all great characters. But Hurley? 100% best character. (And Rousseau-Mia Furlan–best actress.)
But that aside, what were the Island Ghosts doing throughout season 2? They seemed to be trying to do…something. Maybe lure them somewhere? And why, woudl the Island Ghost choose Dave for Hurley–worst possible person it could choose, unless the Island’s motive is “Hee–let’s fuck with their heads.”
I really think that Dave was just a recurrence of Hurley’s mental problems.