Love vs. In Love

I like the Freud definition of “in love”. Just my opinion mind you but looks to me like that might fall more in line with what a lot of people are really feeling.

Oh and BTW…How prophetic can we get here Melpomene…

Right after I posted my last line here the phone rang. It was my sweet, irresponsible boyfriend. We had a semi-argument. He’s getting ready to switch jobs again for the 4th or 5th time since we started dating. Now don’t get me wrong. The job switching thing has no effect on me as far as monetary loss or anything like that goes. It’s just that I see his tendency toward impulsivity and his lack of stick-to-it-ness in this respect as affecting more than just his job status. He, on the other hand cannot see why I find it a less than desirable trait. He knows after all that I divorced my husband and father of my children not just because he was an alcoholic but because he was unambitious and unwilling to share the burden of family life with me. But he seems unwilling to understand why I find his lacking in this area just as problematic. Yes, it’s true that I have been self supporting and independent since I was 18 years old. Yes, it’s true that I don’t need a partner for financial or emotional security. But what I can’t seem to make him understand is that if I am going to have a partner then I MUST FEEL SECURE about the partner. I’d rather be alone for the rest of my life than live with uncertainty. So even though we don’t live together there are times when I contemplate marriage and spending the rest of my life with him or someone like him. I just need to feel like I can count on it, even if my sense of security turns out to be false. I’m realistic enough to realize that the best laid plans and love often go sour. What I’m really looking for is willingness. Even if he can’t always give me what I need a willingness and desire to try is all that I really need. Is there anything wrong with that? What’s wrong with trying to meet the needs of the one you love in a relationship? I’m willing to give it a try. I’m just not willing to be the only one that can be depended upon. I’ve been there, done that and I’m sick of being some selfish asshole’s rock.

So yes, I think he’s impulsive. He may even be fickle, not just about his job. I know he’s lead a lifestyle much different than mine. He’s never really had to put his head down and just slog along because he had someone counting on him. He’s always been able to run home to mommy and daddy when the marriage, job or relationship went south. So now I do have to think often what I want to do about this relationship. It saddens me too because in so many ways we are wonderfully compatible. I’m 42 and I’m beginning to think that I needn’t have a man in my life anymore. I know. I’ve tried to keep it simple. You like me, I like you, we enjoy each other, let’s just keep it at that. I know some people do that. They “date” for years. But for some reason that just doesn’t feel like enough for me, it never has no matter how I tried to maintain that kind of thing. I love having someone at home with me. But I can be happy by myself.

You’re absolutely right. I need to continue to assess the situation. Maybe not just the situation but my expectations. When I’m not in a relationship I don’t have any, but somehow once I get into one I start having them. Perhaps I’d be better off not to bother anymore.

Needs2know

Hey Needs I’ve never seen my view of love vs in love summed up quite as well as the way you did it.

Damn Stuffy it’s nice to be agreed with once in awhile. That doesn’t happen to me often around here. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who felt that way. Takes a small load off my mind. I thought perhaps I was expecting too much or maybe even putting an undue burden on myself as well.

Needs2know…Stuffy is THE MAN in Oakland.

Ahww, twernt nuthin ma’am… :smiley:

Actually, based on what you wrote, and I’m sure you’ve been in a few threads where I’d mentioned my previous marriage, it’s a matter of similar perspective.

I think I may be a bit late to the party here, but I’ll post my take on it anyway.

For me there is only “in love”, Everything else that people usually use the word for doesn’t deserve it.

I don’t “love” my parents or brothers. Sure, they’re nice people, and I have some affection for them. But, the feelings that I have for them are as nothing compared to what I’ve experienced “in love”. I’ve been in love twice, and I still love both of them, year(s) later.

Somehow, the possibility that someone can honestly say “I love you” without it meaning that greatest emotion is just wrong.

I don’t expect to be agreed with, I just don’t think that those two (or more) emotions are even close. They may be vaguely related, but they’re certainly not close enough for me to use one word for both.

LOL…very nice Needs. :slight_smile:

AMEN I hear that Needs. I’ve been self-supporting since I was 17. I also understand the knowledge that we don’t need a partner for certain securities. I, too, would much rather live alone than be with someone who cannot mesh with me. It doesn’t matter how willing I am to sacrifice or make allowances, if the other person refuses to do the same. Mutuality is all I ask for.

Nothing is wrong with that, at all. At 42, you have every right to feel the way you do, as strongly as you feel. You’ve been around the block enough times to know what you need. If someone can’t give you that, then you know you’re better off without.

Good Luck to you!

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