We’re finally meating Peggy’s family so it looks like we’ll either find out what she did with her baby or be able to cross one possibilty off the list. Personally I don’t think she even told her family. It feels too early in the season for it to be revealed. We’ll probally get bits and pieces over the season like we did last year with Don’s past.
My speculation about this show has always been wrong (I refused to believe Peggy was pregnant), but why else would we meet Peggy’s family except to see that they’re caring for her child? If we don’t see a toddler, I’ll be surprised.
But even if it’s not about the baby, I’m looking forward to meeting her people. I have no clue what they’ll be like.
Well I was wrong about her baby :smack: .
:: pats alphaboi:: Don’t let it get’cha down. 
I’m not Catholic. Why didn’t Peggy take communion? Because she had a baby out of wedlock?
Re-viewing is necessary. I didn’t catch any of the dialogue at the party – the music was too loud.
Was that the first plane crash with 100+ fatalities?
That wouldn’t even stop her if she had confessed it and made penance, but she obviously doesn’t believe in it and doesn’t go to church except to appease her grandmother. It would be not only a sin (from the Catholic POV) but disrespectful for her to get Communinion, though it does make it obvious to everyone there who’s paying attention that she’s in a state of mortal sin.
So what are they saying about the baby? Are they claiming it’s the sister’s or do people know it’s Peggy’s? What did her sister mean, when she replied to Peggy’s assertion that she could take care of herself, “That’s not what the doctors said. That’s not what the State of NY said.” Did she mean the baby was taken away, or were there further implications to that? Like, was she institutionalized? I might be reading too much into it.
What did you think of Joan’s behavior towards Paul’s girlfriend? Straight up racism, jealous, what? What is her deal? Paul’s revenge was… interesting. Joan is 32, what an old hag. 
I take it Peggy’s leaning away from (organized) religion and didn’t want to go through all the motions of confession, communion, etc. She only attended to shut her mother up. Besides then we wouldn’t have gotten the image of her sitting alone on the pew hold her [del]son[/del] nephew. 
Pete was behaving oddly even by 1962 standards, right? His whole family is very, very WASPy. I half-expected Rachel to show up in the resturant at the end.
I didn’t take it as racism, but who knows what the poor girlfriend thought. I haven’t paid much attention to Joan or Paul. Did they ever have a relationship? Does Joan have a reason to be jealous or is she just irritated by Paul’s posing? Godalmighty, did wannabe writers Paul’s age really act like that? I can see it in a teenager or a college student, but not an adult.
Peggy’s sister’s comment made me think Peggy had been institutionalized before she had the baby. Peggy’s 21 – she wouldn’t need anyone’s permission to keep or give away a baby, would she? Unless she had a breakdown – that seems more likely. I hope we learn more.
Another thought: Joan and Don both seem fed up with the shenanigans at Sterling Cooper. I’d love to see this season end with both of them leaving and starting a new agency.
Actually, I’d like to see Joan and Don together in another way too.
Yes, and when he asked her why it didn’t work out, she said, “You have a big mouth.”
Yeah, he was being really pretentious (nice neckerchief), and I wondered if Joan’s accusations about why he was dating the supermarket check out girl were accurate. Was it just to give him hipster cred? Is it love? Is Joan is making assumptions because she’s an elitist? Hard to tell, though Joan reminded me of Lisa in *Girl, Interrupted * when she was coldly telling him “the truth.”
My husband thought what you thought, that she had a breakdown before, but she was out of work for 3-4 months after the birth, which seemed to me like a long time to recover from just giving birth and implied maybe a breakdown after the birth. I’m really not sure anymore what her sister meant anymore now.
I thought that it was a 60’s thing. Where the government didn’t consider a single female, who didn’t want to hold her baby after its birth, fit to be a parent.
Any thoughts on what the pink elephant was supposed to mean?
So we finally saw Pete have a moment of humanity (when he was reluctant to take the American account) and then change his mind after Don rebuffed him. I think Don is sort of a father figure to Pete. Pete will always be seeking Don’s approval but never getting it, and resenting him for it.
I think the pink elephant was Pete’s mom losing her mind. Or maybe just being distracted. My mom said some odd things in the days right after my stepdad died.
I thought the scene with Don and Pete was a bit contrived. We never saw him lose it like that when Peggy was his secretary. It was a petty thing to be upset about. Or maybe he was uncomfortable with Pete leaning on him and didn’t want to lend his shoulder a second time.
I think that Peggy wanted to give the baby up for adoption; there is no way that a young woman could be a single mother back then & she knew it. In some ways, that would have been the best solution.
But her family would not stand for it. So they had her declared legally unfit to sign the papers–which probably involved hospitalization. It will be interesting to see just how this was handled. I’m betting that Don helped cover for her so she could keep her job. If he’d been “given up” to a couple who wanted a child, he probably would have fared better than being raised by a bitter stepmother (calling him a"whore child") & a crappy father & (probably) even worse stepfather.
Peggy didn’t take Communion because she hadn’t made a recent Confession. In fact, she probably hadn’t Confessed in quite some time & was in no hurry to rectify the situation. But I’ll bet the old biddies of the parish had plenty to whisper about after that Mass…
This show is really growing on me. I liked last nights show quite a bit.
I also think Lakai is correct about the reason for her giving up the baby.
I keep getting a kick out of seeing that Finch (Robert Morse) did Succeed in Business Without Really Trying
Why did the senior partners force Don to break the news when they knew he was the only one against breaking the trust of their airline client?
I believe Don was head of the Mohawk creative team, and the firm’s primary liaison with the airline. The Mohawk exec made it clear that one of the reasons they went with Sterling Cooper was because they wanted to work with Don.
OK, still seemed particularly cruel to send him. The actor did a great job of portraying how much it hurt him.
I kinda wondered why Duck wanted Pete to pitch American Airlines for their ad business, which Pete declined to do due to having lost his dad on Flight 1.
Duck is pretty damn opaque, but my hunch is it wasn’t just that Pete was one of their better copywriters, but actually because Pete’s dad had died on an AA flight. It would have suggested that the firm really believed in AA.
Joan is fed up with Sterling Cooper, but she’s not going to follow Don into a new firm. She wants to get married so she can quit working altogether. Peggy would follow Don (not that she’d last long at Sterling Cooper without Don). There’s no way in hell Peggy’s mother would just tell everyone she gave birth out of wedlock. They must be telling everyone it’s her older sister’s baby, but then how did big sis explain not telling anyone about being pregnant? :dubious:
I’m a little bit confused as to who does what at Sterling Cooper.
These are the guys I think I have a good handle on:
Senior partners: Bert Cooper, Roger Sterling
Art director: Sal
Office manager: Joan
Copywriters: Paul and Peggy
Media buyer: Harry
These people’s jobs seem to have a good deal of overlap and I’m not sure how their actual duties are delineated:
Creative director: Don
Account manager: Pete Campbell
Account executive: Cosgrove
Account services director: Duck
To a large extent, these guys seem to all be doing the same thing - wooing potential clients, babysitting current clients, coming up with concepts for ad campaigns. What’s the deal?
I’m pretty sure Pete doesn’t write any copy. He has a more administrative role, but I’m not sure how it’s different from what Don and Duck do.
Don sells ideas to clients. Pete is in charge of keeping current clients happy and bringing in new ones. In season one he almost got fired for pitching an idea without Don knowing about it.
Duck is just in charge of people like Pete. His main job is to bring in clients so that they are willing to hear a presentation. Don takes care of the rest.