Mad-Men: 5.08 "Lady Lazarus" (open spoilers)

Did AMC really post that Peggy gets “irradiated”? And does she gain super-powers as a result?

I saw that. :slight_smile:

More troublesome is posting that Don get’s unexpected news. :wink:

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I got to wondering if Megan wasn’t actually cheating on Don now.

The scene where she is lying down in a dark room. She is supposed to be at some acting class. Yes?

Is it possible that she is actually somewhere where she is cheating on Don?

If she was at some acting class, why didn’t they show her taking lessons? Why show her lying down in a dark room?

Something seemed to be fishy with that scene.

It was definitely acting class. There were other people lying down around her and she looked to be on a stage.

Agreed. The class was doing some sort of acting exercise together. I took one acting class in college and we’d do stuff like that.

I didn’t recognize him at first, but I did think whoever the actor was looked like General Burkhalter.

I really hope the elevator is a red herring.

I thought Megan’s comment that she felt better failing at the audition than succeeding at the baked beans pitch and then how she couldn’t enjoy theater because of the envy was really moving. Also good acting.

I don’t think anyone suggested that she was his girlfriend. But for several episodes she represented an escape into a different life for Don.

Heh-heh. You don’t know any actors, do you? That’s exactly the kind of weirdo stuff that goes on in an acting class.

I think that’s “artist girlfriend (the Bohemian chick who later wanted money for drugs), Anna, or the jet setters”. Anna wasn’t a girlfriend and neither were the jet setters, they were all just escapes for Don.

Although I’d replace the artist chick with Rachel Menken and Don’s pathetic attempt to run away with her when his history was revealed.

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Don came from poor, humble beginnings and worked his way up to the top of the world. He wants things to stay the same.
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“I grew up in the thirties. Our dream of tomorrow was running water.”

I’m expecting [Alexis Bledel]'s husband to reveal he was bullshitting about the mistress and is more devoted to his wife than he pretends. I’m guessing she brings as much baggage to the marriage as he does.

I don’t understand why Pete is so miserable. He’s successful, Trudy is intelligent and witty and pretty and devoted to him, he has a baby girl… what’s missing, exactly? He’s not a frustrated writer like Ken or frustrated actor like Megan, he’s a Knickerbocker Trusafarian who lost his inheritance but is making it well on his own, so he should be happy.

Well, that’s really Pete’s basic character trait. He wants to be someone else, he wants the kind of respect that ohter people get. He wants people to look at him with awe and fall at his feet, and he wants it all to be based on his own personal wonderfulness, not because of his name and family. (As far as being a trust baby is concerned, remember, his dad squandered all the money, which was all going to go to Bud anyway, because Pete’s dad hated him.)

There was an exchange between Pete and his train companion that I didn’t quite understand- they were discussing life insurance, and companion said something about “your dad died young, right- car accident, I think?” and Pete concurred. But we met his dad in season 1, when Pete went to his parents to ask about borrowing money for the NYC apartment. Was he supposed to have died after that? If it was covered on the show, I don’t remember it.

He died in a plane crash shortly after that.

That plane crash was mentioned a few times in the conflict the agency had between Mohawk Air and American.

But if you rewatch the scenes with Pete’s father, it’s easy to understand why Pete is so damaged.

Having a parent that doesn’t like you and lets you see that can be very damaging to anyone.

I can’t recall the exact circumstances, but the firm had just got American Airlines or something and then they had a big crash. His dad was on that plane.

Note - -90% of the above could be incorrect, but I recall that he died on a plane run by a company directly related to Sterling Cooper.

I didn’t say she was.

Anyway …

The thing that I am currently fixed on is Pete and Harry and the phone booth.

Pete sees Harry, looks right at him, cracks open the door, Harry comes over and it’s Pete who wonders what Harry wants.

Pete is just flat out losing it mentally. Just what you want from the guy with a rifle in his office.

I wonder if Michael Ginsburg and Dawn are red shirts. So when Pete goes postal, a broader mix of people are taken out. Cross section of society and all that.

I’m thinking Pete shoots up the place, takes a few people out and leaves by the elevator. The new express elevator.

At least, that’s how a conventional show would set things up. But Mad Men rarely does the expected. It’s just so tempting to think this way given the previous episodes about serial killers, etc.

Re: People not showing up in each episode. Lately, as many as 5 people per episode are credit only. A lot of hour long dramas will sometimes have 1 or 2, but 5 is getting up there. (Sticking to opening credits people. Sorry Alison.)

Slight hijack, but what technology was responsible for the sound on Tomorrow Never Knows? And was that song the first to really use it?

Pete’s father died in the crash of American Flight 1. It was a huge plot point in Season 2. That’s when Bud discovered that Andrew Campbell had squandered the remainder of the Dyckman fortune. After that accident Pete teamed up with Duck to try to get American’s business, even pimping out his own father’s death.

That death was written in because of the real accidental death of actor Christopher Allport while he was skiing. Aside from the tragedy of Allport’s death, that is one of the big losses for the show, in my view. I found the few short scenes of Pete’s father absolutely fascinating and I really wanted a deeper exploration of his motivations and why he hated Pete so much.

Sterling Cooper had Mohawk, Pete’s dad died on an AA flight. They eventually tried to use the fact that his dad died in the crash to pick up American Airlines as a client.

I don’t think Pete did that because he’s nuts. I think he just had a guilty conscience.

The vocals were played through a speaker for a Hammond organ and then recorded. The new technology was automatic double-tracking, which, according to Wikipedia anyway, was developed at the Beatles’ request.