- However the 1960s saw the opening of the Playboy Clubs; the first opened in 1960 in Chicago, not sure when they opened in Manhattan, but it would be a hellacool tie-in especially considering how many top comedians got their starts there. (Pat Morita got his big break as a Nehru jacket wearing stand up in Playboy Clubs where he was billed as “The Hip Nip”- so it fits right in to the political incorrectness of the era.)
No question. The obvious conflict for next season is for Don to surrounded by hook-up opportunities but not take advantage of them because he’s all conflicted.
I’m predicting some wild shit for Betty next season. I think she and Francis will be quits a few episodes in and then… who knows. Keys in a hat?
The most interesting part of the possibilities Zeitgeist-wise is that we’re entering 1964 and a huge sea change in American attitudes and mores is happening. For people in their 40’s and 50’s this was/is our history as children.
Plust why is Henry going to Reno with Betty? :dubious: I got the impression that Betty was flying out to Reno for her six-week stay and planning on marrying Henry before she came home, but that doesn’t make any sense. Henry’s not going to suddenly take six weeks off work to stay in Neveda in a seperate hotel room across the hall. What I can buy is Betty deciding to leave her kids for six weeks over the Christmas holiday. That’s comptely in character for her.
Maybe–but I think it’s really over for Don and Bets, however much either of them or both of them may spend time regretting it.
Did you notice the lyrics to that closing song:
"Shahadaroba, Shahadaroba
Means the future
Is much better than the past
Shahadaroba, Shahadaroba
In the future
You will find a love that lasts"
Now I could be being too literal here but I think these writers choose their songs very carefully and my sense is that what’s key in these lyrics is not so much the promise of something better–nothing actually gets better in Mad Men just like in life ;)-- as the futural orientation.
Yes, indeed. Shahadaroba…
Oh… I think Don and Betty are done, the “keys in a hat” refers to Betty trying … well… “new things”. I’m not sure if 1964 is just a bit early for that though.
Question:
Why does Lane Pryce pronounce his boss’s name (Saint John Powell) as “Sin Gin Powell”? Is this a British thing? I’ve never heard it anywhere else, but he continually refers to him as Sin-Gin.
Henry is infatuated with her. And infatuations can come and go.
Clearly you are either never read Jane Eyre for a school assignment or had a crappy teacher. “SinGin” is the pronunciation of the name “St. John” in England.
He probably is going for the entire six weeks, probably just to help her settle and head back to Albany.
:smack: Wasn’t sure what you meant by that. Some kind of swinger reference from the Bob, Carol, Ted and Alice end of the 60s, no?
I’m a bit young to have experienced that outside of movies; I matured in the age of serial monogamy. (Did I miss anything good?)
Hard to imagine Betty swinging; unless those pills she’s been taking are a little stronger than Miltown…
Because he doesn’t think she’s capable of getting the ball rolling by herself, or because he wants to make sure she doesn’t change her mind. Probably a bit of both.
Aren’t you supposed to be shaking your hand at me and calling me a bastard? 
I’d say it’s a matter of control. By taking command of the situation–accompanying her to Reno (and perhaps arranging for and paying for the trip)–and by discouraging her from getting a financial settlement from Don, he is manuvering her into being dependent on him.
I agree. Hardly a lot to expect that he would accompany her for something this momentous–just like he went with her to speak to the lawyer. After all, he’s not keen for her to feel independent and she’s not keen to spend a day without a man holding her hand.
Hah! I was re-watching it and it flashed by in one second. At 41:00 to 41:10 look what Pete has in his hand as he exits the building!
Yes it’s his little buddy he got at the department store when he exchanged the “chip and dip”
My favorite line was, of course, Roger’s.
“We’ve got tea!”
Speaking of Ken, isn’t he now the Acting Chairman of Sterling-Cooper? :eek: I mean the entire senior managment team left without warning over the weekend. Mr Hooker was is only the office manager; I don’t think there’s anybody over Ken left. Sure Saint-John or one of his cronies is one the next flight from London, but would they try to run SC or just give up?
I would have assumed that they had most logos on photo negatives at the time.
I’m fairly sure that Sterling-Cooper 1.0 is dead. As someone pointed out in the last thread, ad agencies don’t have too much in the way of tangible assets. McCann wanted to buy Don, and perhaps, to a lesser extent, Roger, Lane, and Bert. Not only have they left, but they’ve taken the best of their underlings with them. Those left behind will likely spend the day working on their resumes and looting office supplies before St. John shutters the joint.
That was the only thing that gave me pause about Don’s plan; it transferred the screwing the top four were getting to the rest of the staff (sans Peggy, Pete, and Beardface-whose-name-I-should-know-but-don’t). None of them deserve that.
Well…okay, none of them but Lois. It’s conceivable that Sterling-Cooper mark two will avoid a lawsuit by agreeing to take her as well as the stolen files.