Dammit, these fucktard actors/musician/artist types are supposed to use $cientology as their standard religious crutch.
Step One for being an Ambassador for Judaism: CONVERT TO FUCKING JUDAISM. BEING ANNOINTED AS SUCH BY “HOLLYWOOD ACTORS” ISN’T SUFFICIENT"
Can “Esther” even read these things in Hebrew? Or is there a “Good News/Short Bus” translation? Even though IANAJ, I suspect that there is more to Kabbalah than wearing those stupid, fucking red strings “to ward off evil.” I suppose that “Esther” can indeed be an “Ambassador for Judaism” — to her fucktard actor friends.
If there ever was a secret Hollywood Jewish Cabal, now would be the time for its’ dark tentacles to reach out and deal with this “Esther” twit. Perhaps dear, cranky old El can be bothered to turn this insipid bitch into a pillar of salt. :rolleyes:
OMG-Bryan is Jacko! :eek: olives4march-whatever. Sorry, I can’t see Madonna as deep or sympathetic (or a talented singer or performer)–she’s great at showmanship and shock stuff (the Britney kiss-another example). Anything, but anything to garner attention–ok, so she had an unhappy childhood. And? When she first hit it big, her name caused quite a ruckus; but poser that she is, it was Sinead O’Connor who made a more reviled “gesture” towards the Catholic church-Madonna stopped (again) at look at me! I’m naughty! :rolleyes:
Please don’t mistake my disparagement of her book for lack of advocacy concerning female sexuality–I dislike her methods. Miming masturbation on stage (no matter the gender) is not a great way to send a message. Nor is “writing” a book about your sexual prediliections.
But she was good in the movie, “Desperately Seeking Susan”.
I really don’t see Kabbalah as a “natural” progression from Catholicism. To claim she is the “ambassador” of Judaism when she is 1. not Jewish, 2. not recognized by that faith as a representative or as an active member of ANY faith-Jewish or Christian or fillintheblank and 3. a celebrity who is known to take controversial positions complete with a newly minted Scots accent (mixed with Detroitese, it is quite unique) for their publicity value seems to undermine her position a tad . YMMV.
Here’s the fun part: If I remember correctly, the true nature of Kabbalah cannot be revealed to a woman, under the principles of Kabbalah. (In fact, most strict Orthodox practice frowns on teaching women anything that isn’t necessary for them to know, a practice that I disagree with.)
The best example is where Esther invites Ahashveros and Haman to the first drinking party: “Let the King and Haman come today” - “Yavo Hamelekh V’haman Hayom”.
Except that what Hollywood people practice as Kabbalah is an insult to the real Kabbalah. And for her to go from this psuedo-Kabbalah to claiming herself to be an ambassador for Judaism is like a Unitarian declaring himself the worldwide ambassador for Mormonism or something. What she is doing has nothing at all to do with Judaism.
I dunno…he was a little angry at first when she caught pregnant, but who wouldn’t be? It must have been a big shock. And he came around in time. Did the dishes with her and everything. I recall him looking a lot like Danny Aiello.
And she wrote a lot of very sincere songs about it.
That’s all.
I thought so, too. That, and Evita. Otherwise she is a pretty horrible actress.
He was at least emotionally abusive, which she’s been pretty open about in interviews and her music. She even wrote a whole song about it: ‘‘Oh Father’’
(you can’t hurt me now/I got away from you/I never thought I would
you can’t make me cry/ you once had the power/ I never felt so good about myself)
That’s only the most blatant example, and she generally included strong Catholic imagery in her performance of that song to underscore the connect between her feelings about her family and her strong Catholic upbringing. (’‘Seems like yesterday/ I lay down next to your boots and I prayed/ for your anger to end/ Oh Father I have sinned’’)
She is a lot more sincere than many people realize.
Haven’t seen too many of her films, to be honest, including this one. I saw that abysmal thing she made with Guy Ritchie–Swept Away. It was painful to watch.
I guess personally, I’m just trying to straddle the line between people who follow every detail of every celebrity’s life because they assume famous=important, and those who dismiss everything to do with performers because they must be attention whores and completely insincere.
People who work in the entertainment industry tend to love attention–that is one big reason they love what they do. But there is also a very real creative and emotional side to the work that many people discount. I think this is true of most performance artists. Nobody would work that hard if they weren’t passionate about what they were doing. A lot (certainly not all) of these people spent years working for shit pay before they hit it big. And I don’t think anybody could rationally argue that their jobs are easy.
I have a friend currently struggling in the entertainment industry who is a die-hard attention whore who publicly fits the definition of the slick, arrogant player stereotype. Constantly focusing on himself is an integral part of his being. He was born to be a celebrity and spends just about every moment of his free time trying to make it happen. But he’s also very talented, dedicated, compassionate, hilarious, wicked smart and an all around lovely human being. He is one of the world’s better citizens, for sure. Whenever people start ripping on celebrities, I think of him and how his public profile only represents a tiny fraction of who he actually is. I think about the most idiotic things he has done and how someone might use those events to distort the truth about his personality. Then I wonder how much that can be extrapolated to just about every famous person in existence.
I highly doubt I am going to convince anyone who doesn’t already believe that Madonna’s work has value and relevance. That would be just about as probable as convincing me that Nickelback’s work is worthy of being taken with artistic consideration. I just thought I’d throw the opposing viewpoint out there for consideration’s sake, since a lot of people who dislike Madonna aren’t really familiar with the personal context of her work or how many self-perceived emotional risks she has consistently taken with it. OTOH, you either like it or you don’t. YMMV indeed.
