OK, So Madonna has re-invented herself yet again! She has a truly awful new album (have you heard the lyrics of the songs?-…“my dad he used to go to work, I used to think he was a jerk”…), a new hair and wardrobe, and a new lifestyle!
Apparently, she belongs to some weird religion that studies the caballa!
So, is this another talenless assault onour minds and pocketbooks? Who does she think she’s kidding?
Her interview this morning was also illuminating…she said that she “learned a lot” from her recnt flop-film (where she wore a bikini for most of the tme).
My question: is it TIME for Madonna to retire?
Nope.
She has more talent and charisma than 99% of the female pop singers out there. She can sing. She can dance. She has style. She has a wonderful work ethic. She truly is a living legend.
Having said that, she can’t act her way out of a paper bag. 
The only person more ridiculous in show business today is Tim “there is a cold wind blowing, and I sound just like FDR” Robbins. But he actually has talent.
Madonna admits she is a not a great dancer or singer. Now she just wants attention. It is pathetic.
And why would she and her husband think that they should remake a very good movie? (SWEPT AWAY)
What is their next project? A remake of Citizen Cane?
The Kabalah is basically Jewish mysticism. So it’s been around for a very long time.
Supposedly, Madonna has been studying it for a while and it “changed her life” but if I recall she said the same thing about Buddism and who knows what else (like becoming a mother)?
Madonna…the eternal attention sponge :rolleyes:
She had a free concert and CD signing at the Tower Records on lower Broadway yesterday. They allowed 300 people entry. I can’t believe people (some came from outta state) camped outside the store for THREE DAYS just to see her!
She has talent, but like Michael Jackson hasn’t had any good music out for quite some time. I think her time is past.
Fingolfin’s got it right.
I smell the hoity-toity-ness of the board poking through.
“Well if it’s pop culture, it can’t be any good, we are the intellectual elite and so much better than those unwashed masses.”
On the other hand, a lot of popular things really do suck.
Or it could just be that she sucks.
I disagree.
Her last album Music was quite good. Don’t Tell Me was a fantastic single. That “stop-start” guitar hook was brilliant! Also one of the best videos I’ve seen in quite some time.
The album before that, Ray of Light, was one of her best albums every IMHO. Or course William Orbit had a lot to do with that, but still.
After I posted above, I watched her interview with Matt Lauer and she was saying how fame was not all it is cracked up to be and how she and hubby sit around at night discussing spiritual things. And oh yeah, I’ll be on Will & Grace tonight and I have a new CD out and blah fucking blah…
I admit I actually like her voice if the song is decent. But she is crazy, they are all crazy. They have to be to make it in show biz.
I realize that she carries weapons in her shelved video but I didn’t realize they were pointed at anyone’s head and forcing them to buy her CDs, see her movies, watch her on Will and Grace, read of her in the papers or online or post to message board threads about her.
If you all loathe her so much for being an attention whore then why are you paying attention to here?
Obviously we derive some kind of pleasure from ragging on Madonna. Duh.
Because she is better than us.
Yes, the original was GREAT!
What the hell were Mr. & Mrs. Madonna thinking???
Uh, cuz we’re attention whores?
At least she manages to stay in the spotlight without creeping everybody out completely. coughMichael Jacksoncough
I’ll stand up in defense of Madonna.
I find her personality–or whichever personality she’s got on this week–annoying. But over the years, she’s put out some excellent pop music, videos, and even a couple of okay movies. She’s provided us with a lot of entertainment over the past 20 years.
If you go back and listen to her first popular singles, they stand up better than a lot of pop music from that time. Her videos are still fun to watch, unlike many mid-'80s videos. I think the mid-to-late '90s were kind of a slump for her career-wise, but her last two albums have been great.
I’ll agree that her ever changing personas and accents are ridiculous, but I guess they contributed to what is turning out to be a pretty excellent body of work.
Personally, I think she’s underappreciated, especially compared to the likes of Michael Jackson. She is truly the King of Pop.
I’ll give credit to anyone who can stay in the game as long as Madonna has. She’s talented as a singer and dancer, but she is a genius at marketing herself.
from 1985, an article in The Tech–
In his essay [Polio Flesh ]‘s introduction, Mr. Rollins says of Madonna: " Bimbo Rock,' Boy toy,’ etc. I say yap-yap, shut up. Oh sure, critics chop her up, but they still stare at her breasts, yes they do. You cannot can not argue with success. You can, but you come off looking like a petty chump, a loser, a jealous backbiter."
More recently, in a VH-1 sound bite, he pointed out that while you’re sleeping, Madonna is working. She’s at the gym, in the recording studio, filming a video, prepping a tour.
Re: Madonna, I vote for ‘talented and amazing,’ personally. Nobody else does what she does, difficult personality be damned. Why is it we insist that our women celebrities be sweet, sympathetic, familiar? If she were male, her abrasiveness wouldn’t be seen as the glaring sin it appears.
IMO I think a lot of people are annoyed by Madonna because she’s very much in control of her own image, work, celebrity and status, she owes it largely to her own hard work and driving ambition and she knows and says as much. She doesn’t care what they think; she’s the polar opposite of Stuart Smalley. Probably if you put them in a room together the Universe would implode. 
I think people who are inclined to dismiss Madonna but are for some reason endlessly fascinated by her regardless should grab hold of the November 2001 copy of Entertainment Design magazine and read up on the amazing production design of her Drowned World tour; understand how involved she was in that massive process and concept, and realize that while many of the pleasant, smiling celebrities we see are cogs in a giant Fame Machine, she’s driving hers. Why does that bother you? Madonna-bashers be aware: I’m almost 100% sure she doesn’t care what you think, and you’re not likely to convert the rest of us. So why spend so much time talking about her?
I probably wouldn’t want to hang around with her either, nor she me–why should we? But I look forward to her work, because it’s good and its hers, and she’s no kind of tool.