Silver Jan, I voted for you yesterDay for suggesting that Pizza had a scummy motivation, then saying that he was “just being Pizza”.
You didn’t respond to this vote at the time. Can you comment on it now?
Until recently, when Quicktopics became popular, ALL private boards in games I’ve played here or at two other sites were conducted at Proboards. I don’t have all the tags memorized but Astral told us that {s} was {del}.
When Scum I often preview public posts at the private board. To avoid error, I’d use vB tags when showing the post at the private board, precisely to avoid a lapse like Astral exhibited.
I usually click Preview, especially if a post is long. Perhaps Astral didn’t feel a need to do so, because he’d already previewed at another board.
This is one piece of evidence, not complete proof of Astral’s guilt. At present I’m tempted to vote for the same three I had votes on yesterDay, but will wait until I have time to restudy.
Okay, that makes more sense. It sounded like you yourself recognised the [s] tags, which by your arguement would then also incriminate you.
I’m vanilla, folks, so no big claim coming and my death would not be earth shattering. If I am looking to die for sure I’ll share my clue, but for now I’ll keep it secret.
I don’t know how to follow that.
Maybe it’s better if I don’t. How about this instead - what do you think of the recent Astral Rejection/Chronos exchange about a push to lynch dizzy either incriminating:
(per Chronos… Mahaloth, Astral Rejection, yourself, and Pleonast)
Or
(per Astral Rejection… Captain Klutz, TexCat, Darth Sensitive)?
No, you’ve misread me. I don’t necessarily believe those three are scum. I said by Chronos’ logic, they should be under consideration, and it’s telling that he’s ignored them.
The masons may or may not have access to outside boards. Just another possibility.
This tag thing is a little silly. I’m not scum or a mason.
Literally every other board I’m familiar with uses [s] for strike-throughs. It was just a mistake, and really… why would I be composing a vote count on the scum boards?
We haven’t played mafia in many months, and I haven’t had a reason to do a strike-through in just about as long. You can decide for yourselves whether this was a slip and I’m lying or not, and vote me accordingly, but the speculation is getting a bit silly. 
Hah, I used “silly” twice. Ask me how I really feel about this subject!
Yuck, don’t vote people for vBulletin tags. Really?
Anyway, Astral, I poke you: why is it “wasted effort” to talk about people even if they are later revealed as scum? Is talking about people who are later revealed as scum can not a way to root out scum?
My eyes are crossing about the “lists of suspicion” that are being postulated. All I can say is I don’t think it looks particularly bad for Pizza, as I think my refusal to push his lynch is mostly responsible for him not being lynched. But I admit to not having a lot of patience for analysing vote charts…
Pizza: Hypocritical Holmes says, “You gonna explain? Why have you accused Inner Stickler?”
Inner: any thoughts on the lynch yesterday?
Not Edited To Fix:
“revealed as scum can not a way” should be “revealed as scum not a way”…
I think dizzy got railroaded and that the case against her was extremely lacking in persuasiveness. I would have said it before but to be honest I wasn’t paying that much attention to people voting for dizzy before it was too late.
I’m currently trying to work through why Pleo got bandwagoned and then abandoned and replaced by Dizzy and whether I think one or both wagons were scumfluenced and if so who is a likely scummer in them.
Well, from a strictly time-management point-of-view, I spent time building a case on him when I could have investigating other leads. From a strategy point of view, what you’re doing works best if you drop the bombshell at the end of the day, not at the beginning. If Chronos is scum, his scum buddies have now been tipped off that you know and will not act as they would have. We lost value by you “magic bagging” your knowledge.
I’m also open to the possibility that you did NOT investigate/whatever power you have Chronos, and are trying to get someone to incriminate themselves. Also, there’s still the possibility that you aren’t actually Sherlock, and are lying. I would have expected you to be blocked at the very least, assuming scum have a blocker.
I suppose your assumption plausible. I don’t pay any heed to color, but some players do. But I don’t like how you initially continued from that assumption to demanding the claimed Daphne provide results or face the lynch. We’ve been provided by the moderator that Holmes is town–there’s exactly nothing the claimant need do until counter-claimed.
unvote Chronos for a plausible explanation.
Yes, yes, very nice. Why should any of the rest of care either way?
Despite being an apparent townie, you still need to give us a reason. Town can often be wrong. Are you simply poking Chronos for unspecified suspicious behavior or do you have some actual alignment evidence against them?
I was advocating against lynching lizzy in favor of lynching TexCat. That contradicts your claim that I was pushing for the former’s lynch and that I’d ignored major issues.
Is it that hard to summarize what your cases are, or even link to them?
It’s presumably the scum’s Day-kill, given that there’s no Night (how do we afford all these gas lamps anyway?).
I doubt it. It’s been a long while since story has included post restrictions (I’m thinking Bladerunner). The general consensus is that post restrictions hamper gameplay too much, are typically hard to enforce, and tend to make messes out of games.
Idle fairly well addressed my concerns almost perfectly before I (or anyone else) even posted them. That gives them a lot of townie points, enough to put them well below my vote threshold. That doesn’t erase their poor vote record, but not everyone who does something suspicious is scum.
At the most basic, it just tends to shut things down. A power role announces something that points to a scum, whether it’s an investigator who got a mafia alignment result or a tracker who saw a player visit the NK or whatever, and the rest of the Day consists of people showing up, voting for the player and leaving. The vote record is useless because it’s unanimous and the day as a whole is rather wasted because no one feels lynch pressure to participate. And your “you know why comment” screams that you have some sort of information like that, whether you meant it to or not. And because you are the closest we have so far to a living confirmed player, comments like that from you are going to, on average, be rated more highly and inspire more action than if someone else made them.
That’s a better explanation of what I was getting at with my post, Daphne.
I am persuaded. Fair enough. I was perhaps hoping for too much with my approach.
I will go in a different direction now.
Chronos was seen in the vicinity of Johnny Bravo last night.
Also, Inner, Dizzy was kind of railroaded – by me at least. I take responsibility for that. I thought she was the best lynch of the viable candidates at the end of the day, just because of her bad votes.
That I was encouraging her lynch should not mean that the bandwagon is not examined. I just think that it is a fairly townie or at least neutral move to follow a trusted player in a lynch, especially in a low-information environment like Day One. Of course, scum know that and can exploit it, too…
Vote Chronos
DB, I would disagree about the towniness of such a move. I would consider it no better than neutral pretty much regardless of which Day it happens. The appeal to scum is far too great if a townie is in the crosshairs and that’s far more likely this early in the game.
I understand that dizzy’s votes weren’t particularly meaningful but to me at least they didn’t taste duplicitous. They felt like someone who didn’t have any particular leads but wanted to contribute and then be done. If dizzy were scum, I’d have expected to see more of a direction in her arguments and votes. While there are scum who can do these tossed off sort of votes in a natural feeling way, I don’t think she is one.
OK, I guess it’s time for me to claim.
I did use my power targeting Johnny Bravo, and I learned that someone voting for him is a Townie. Since the only person voting him was Lightfoot, that clears her. I chose to use my power right away since information is always useful, and I chose Johnny because with only one vote on him, it would remove the randomness of my power.