No worries at all. 
Are we still going with the Cookies attacks Naf who redirects to Zsofia plan? I don’t actually think it will work mind you, but it should provide some interesting information.
I am down, but think that I should random.org between zsofia and omi so no one knows who gets the redirect until morning. I came up with this idea last night while walking my dog, but can not for the life of me remember exacly why I thought it might give scum a loophole if I tell them who I am redirecting to.
I haven’t submited yet, so tell me if you think I am being silly.
I’m obviously not the most impartial reviewer, but I’d prefer we tried zsofia first: if she’s telling the truth we can lynch me post-haste, but the secret power is kind of an either-or proposition: every Night I chose between using the power or protecting myself, and if I use my scotsman protection, the secret power expires with it. I’m assuming this will meet with skepticism, so I’m perfectly willing to share the specifics on demand.
Either way, though, I’d like to know if we’re using random.org or not before daybreak: right now I’m using the secret power, and I’d like to have time to PM Pleo and confirm that my protection is in place if there’s a chance I’ll be targeted for a nightkill tonight.
You could be trying to CYA, and not be tied down to a public promise, allowing you to make up the best story in light of what tomorrow’s Dawn tells us about whatever happens toNight.
Or perhaps it is your conviction that I’m scum 
that is causing you to repress the possibility that if you share which alleged Scotsman that you will target, and you happen to choose the actual Scotsman, that the Cabal might be able to block the Scotsman’s survivalist power ergo leaving him/her defenseless when my kill ricochets through you, assuming you are indeed a Magician.
I woke up this morning realizing this potential hitch in the plan, and have confirmed it with Pleo. A blocked Scotsman, if targeted for a kill, will die unless protected by someone else.
This plan is too complicated. Cookies, if you are really a Vig, do what you will. We can’t learn anything from or prove anything by your action or inaction - there are too many confounding factors. Except this:
If you are really a pro-Town Vig, PLEASE DO NOT TARGET DRAIN BEAD UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
Drain Bead is the Omega Wolf. She dies last. As long as we do not kill her, and the Vampire does not kill her, the Cabal does not win.
I will leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine what player was most eagerly encouraging - nay, taunting - Cookies to kill Drain Bead, and what that might say about his motivations.
I’m a bit chary of the plan, but I’m not going to tell a power role what to do.
Assuming the Cabal still exists (as Koldanar testifies) there are several things that could go wrong.
The Cabal could block you, denying us any information.
The Cabal could block NAF, leaving him stone dead.
NAF might redirect the kill to the real Scotsman, and the Cabal block the Scotsman, when the Scotsman dies.
NAFs refusal to announce now is good play; it leaves the Cabal guessing about which Scot to block, at the risk of having them block him instead.
Or maybe they’ll just continue to block Koldanar.
What I will suggest is this : NAF, if you can, announce your role diversion target very close to the Dawn deadline, to deny the scum any chance to respond. That way you get the best of both worlds, because you can’t be accused of making it up after you see the results.
Naf, I prefer you just go after Zsfoia. I can’t think of any reason that knowledge of being a target would effect results.
What I like about the plan is the cabal likely can’t block Koldanar and Cookies. If either Naf or Zsofia are cabalist they will have to block Cookies or risk getting killed. This would allow Koldanar’s power to go through. Also, if Cookies is blocked, we can gain valuable information based on how many other kills there are. I don’t mind telling power roles what to do when I believe they are all scum.
Fair enough. Like I said it struck me last night that it might be a bad idea, I just don’t remember why anymore.
Dawn is tomorrow at noon right?
Your time, yes.
I’m fine with that, but if the Cabal does block me, I’ll die and you won’t know I was the Real McCoy (see what I did there?) for a couple days. During that time, if Omi is not a second Scotsman you’ll be thinking he’s confirmed.
Uh… <looks over at Koldanar, who looks just so cheerful>… I don’t know how to tell you this. But I’m sure the Cabal has figured it out by now, so I’ll just go ahead and say it. The Cabal has no need to block Koldanar toNight. He’s going to be… <looks over at Koldanar again> going to a farm. A sunny farm, where he can run and play. The Cabal is not stupid, and they will not be wasting their block on him. The plan, regrettably, can be employed by the Cabal in any way they please, depending on: (1) Who is actually Cabal; and (2) How they wish to apply their block.
Oh geez. Well, shucks, it’s nice and all, but you don’t need to couch it. I’ve been a terminal case since the start of day for. I was prepared for my condition to do me in last night, as it were, but the powers that be decided otherwise. I’m going to go ahead with the formality of choosing a target, because I will not go quiet, but we all know it’s coming. You don’t have to keep up such a strong front, story. There, there. It will be all right.
I don’t think that’s a big deal though: we seem to be doing alright numerically, and so if worst comes to worst, and we think we’ve eliminated the undead and cabal, we have enough living townies to make test-lynching me before offing the Omgea Wolf a doable proposition.
And I agree with story that this whole kill, redirect and find a scot is a little convoluted as well as giving all concerned some potential shifty positions come sun up.
I’ll buy the next round since the lynch of scummy PO is going to confirm my towniness. And then we have even more confirmed town.
Nanner, nanner.
And ONK this holding on to a town secret power is getting a wee bit tedious. Unless you get to carry it over to the next game I am kind of curious what in the world holding onto it accomplishes unless it is so feeble as to not have even mentioned it. In which case, why?
I mean seriously, did Pleo say that the next time it’s your turn to pick up doughnuts that you can delegate that task to one of the remaining players? However, you will lose your protection.
Sounds kind of stereotypically Scottish on afterthought.
Are they Krispy Kremes? 'Cause he probably ate them. That’s what happened the last time I tried to bring Krispy Kremes to work. They asked me what happened to the missing ones and I said somebody must have stolen them from another department.
Something I thought of a while back that hasn’t been mentioned that I think ought to be; in all the debate about what faction might be motivated to claim Vig and why, no-one has asked this question of the other claims as well. Specifically, no-one has asked what non-Town role might want to claim Vicar.
The easy answer for that one, of course, is Vampire.
Vicars are not just an active agent opposing the growth of zombie numbers, they are passively defending the town against the nocturnal activities of Vampires. A Vampire who claims Vicar has neatly explained why they have never been killed by one. Their future survival is assured, at least until towards the very end of the game, because the Vicar is no threat whatsoever to any other killing faction.
Hence I have had a low-level suspicion of both the Vicar claimants running through the back of my mind. I know Pollux Oil is dead now, and I await the revelation of his faction with great interest, but that’s not until Dusk Tomorrow. Long wait.
I’m not sure right now what to make of peekercpa, but I don’t consider it wholly unlikely that the number of Vicars equalled the number of Vampires. Thus even if PO comes out Town, it doesn’t automatically mean peeker is a Vampire.
I’m still thinking about the other duplicate claims and which non-Town faction might be most motivated to try them.
I’m not sure how a vamp claiming Vicar makes more sense than a Cabalist or wolf making that claim. The latter two would have the additional benefit of causing the vamp to aim elsewhere. I also believe, as I mentioned earlier in my case against, magician is a logical claim for cabalists.
my case against Naf.
It’s not as close to the wire as I would like to cut it, but this may be my last chance to post before the Day starts.
I will confirm that I have targeted Zsofia.