Advocating for things and posting opinions is controversial and leads to scrutiny. Scrutiny leads to questions. Questions lead to answers people don’t like. Answers lead to votes. Votes lead to additional votes. Fear of new ideas leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
I sense much fear in you.
A proper response would run afoul of the “no strategy at night” rule, so I’ll just say this:
There seems to be this mythology already being created around Pizza’s lynch, where us dummies lynched poor innocent Pizza for just espousing an idea.
To which I say, re-read Day 1. 
Sorry about not being around at Days end. I was watching a bunch of dwarves run away from a horde of screaming goblins.
I won’t be distracted like that again for the near future.
Is that what they were doing? I thought it was a preview for the upcoming roller coaster at Six Flags.
While we’re “nighting,” maybe you guys can help me. I really like the song “Back It Up” by Caro Emerald. Can you guys recommend more songs like that to me?
Also screaming and renewing a mutual 150-year-old hatred.
I enjoyed it more than I expected, one or two beefs with PJ’s tendency to change parts of the plot excepted.
I can’t see how they can make it a three-movie series unless they put on-screen an awful lot of Professor Tolkien’s off-screen actions. (We saw some in this film, suggesting that they will show What Gandalf Did when he left the Dwarves.)
Glad to see you active. Did the procedure go OK or are you still waiting?
That is my understanding. PJ’s Hobbit trilogy will be more of a sausage of bits of The Silmarillion, *Unfinished Tales *, The History of Middle-earth, The Children of Húrin, The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún all held together in a Hobbit casing.
And also stuff that they completely make up.
I’m fine with that, so long as the sausage tastes good. It is usually not a good idea to look too closely at what goes into sausage. 
Or calamari.
Ah, the movies. I remember the movies. One would just go, of an evening or possibly a weekend afternoon. Possibly on a whim. And if the movie finished late, why, one would simply lie-in the next day. Good times, good times.
Of course, I love my kids.
Frankly, I still haven’t quite forgiven the changes to Faramir and Denethor.
Changing Faramir was for the best. The movie is already filled with people who somehow resisted this “irresistibly corrupting” ring. Far more interesting to see someone fall and redeem themselves, in my opinion.
The problem with that idea is that it removed the whole difference between Boromir and Faramir. Boromir fell to the lure of the Ring, and redeemed himself in the (ultimately) futile defence of Merry and Pippin.
Also, he portrayed Denethor as an uncaring monster, rather than a man who cared too much, and was pushed over the edge after a long struggle with someone too strong for him.
The movie has exactly three characters who resisted the lure of the Ring - Bilbo, Frodo and Sam. The leaders among the Free Peoples dealt with it by the 10’ pole method - they never touched the Ring.
Sure, Denethor is kind of silly.
But the movie depicts many, many characters resisting the ring. Galadriel refuses it. Gandalf ignores it. Aragorn rejects it. The rest of the fellowship shows not even a hint of breaking. Sam’s resolve is impenetrable. While Frodo fears Boromir is just the first, we have no actual on-screen evidence that anyone else will take it. Faramir is unique in the sense that we see he was genuinely tested, and passes.
Ignore the book. Going only by the movie, almost every single character Frodo meets is unswayed by the ring. Faramir adds danger back into Frodo’s possession of the ring, and reminds us of the terrible weight Frodo bears far better than his wincey face and whining speeches.
Omg that was so far in the past I don’t remember what that scenerio is like…
Wouldn’t trade my mini’s either 
They are my life now
Ave Atque Vale, pizza. I goofed. But Astral has the right of it, 'nuff said.
Speaking of whom… dear Astral, you are my hero. I stand with you on Faramir. I think he ‘showed his true quality’ by being very briefly tempted by the ring, which I think only controlled his actions in that cave scene where he lifts it with his sword. The rest of the time, IMHO, he was trying to do right by his father and Gondor; he doesn’t show any of the hypnotic, mesmerized behavior after that (scary) confrontation scene with Frodo/Sam, it’s just that he’s trying to fill his brother’s shoes and obey his father’s wishes. If it were the ring that was controlling him, I don’t think he’d have made the decision to let Frodo go so easily after the fight with the Nazgul.
Film Denethor was an asshat but he wasn’t truly loopy until after Boromir died–the extended version shows just how much his older son’s death affected him. I had the impression he sent Faramir and the others out to near-certain death because he thought the battle vital to protecting Gondor, not because he didn’t care about ‘his’ kingdom.
Besides, anything Jackson did that resulted in that amazing scene with Pippin singing over the massacre, and the horror of Faramir being dragged back by his horse only to be nearly burned alive by his father, was more than worth the “ruination” of the book’s Perfectly Good Faramir (who in the film is only Almost Completely Good but Human Faramir – and he’s certainly still easily distinguished from his brother. Boromir wasn’t evil or anything, far from it, but he was certainly more easily corrupted by the ring probably because he was closer to power and once Aragorn returned became more and more envious of the man who was likely to rule instead of him).
All those scenes were some of my favorite parts of the trilogy. Probably because the brothers/father dynamic was the most personal subplot of the films. And Billy Boyd was brilliant in that whole film. (David Wenham’s Faramir was robbed in the non-Extended Cuts; he loses some lovely moments with Pippin and his all-too-brief courtship of Eowyn.)
Wow, and I thought I wasn’t gonna have anything to say at Night.
Well said, well said.
Plus, desperate times call for desperate measures. Boromir wanted the ring to use as a weapon, not because he was blood-crazy, but because he was desperate. His kingdom has been on the verge of utter ruination for years, and only the blood of his people has kept it free. And it’s not enough. Every sacrifice every Gondorian has ever made will be forgotten when orcs have razed Minas Tirith to the ground (mountain?).
Having Faramir feel that same pressure, have the same desperation, and having even less power and ability to help, and still finally making the right choice is great characterization. Him being “perfectly good” just doesn’t make sense in the context of the unending battle for survival his life has been.
Did somebody say Spider-Man thread?
Smh I’ve seen the LOTR films and the old school Hobbit movie. They were good but I guess I’m more of a sci-fi guy. Carry on with your Tolkien talk. Don’t mind me, I’ll be over her with my Transformers and super heroes.
We can chat about Star Trek and Star Wars instead if you’d like. I’m crazy excited for both. 