Mafia - Game in progress [Edited title]

My apologies for the misstatement, though it doesn’t change the point of what I was saying in that post. The fact is that there were a number of votes against you early in the Day, and once **Diggit **claimed Mason you became the only viable candidate…until **TexCat **‘reminded’ us that we should vote for **Chucara **again.

And for the record, I am not voting for you because I thought you had PIS regarding Pizza; I voted for you because I didn’t like your ‘straddling the fence’ with your votes, and because I’m suspicious of what looks like an effort going on to ‘save you’.

And yes, by saying that I am aware that I’m smudging everyone who has voted for **Chucara **Today.

Anybody have a current vote count handy?

of FFS choie, you’ve been playing this game long enough to know that Town win by killing scum. Town don’t win by killing off the least useful Townies. That you’ve been (apparently) playing under this delusion for the better part of a week now is…bah, I don’t know. But my vote on you is staying.

If you flip scum (which I’m thinking is a strong possibility) I get to dance upon your grave. If you flip Town, I’ll just shake my head, wonder what failed gambit you were up to, and keep playing the best game I can.

S’all cool, some of us likely deserve it. :smiley:

Speaking of TexCat, I think you hit the nail on the head. She’s been cheer leading Chucara’s lynch. Anybody feel like joining my vote on her? I’d move off Chucara to lynch her, as my vote on him mostly reflects my larger town lean on Choie.

Astral, as I said. I can’t win in this scenario. You claim you’ve never seen anyone immediately pounced on for saving themself in the last hours? Seriously?? Every single game I’ve played… okay, all 2 of them, apparently… has featured this dynamic. There is absolutely no way people will not be convinced this was just a martyr gambit. See Enderw24, for example. He’ll still think it’s a gambit even when I flip Town!

*What the everliving heck? * What a bizarre reaction. Now that seems scummy.

vote Enderw24 just because if I can’t OMGUS at this point, when can I? Plus, come on, that reaction is ridiculous. My bona fides should be absolutely intact once I die; that’s just insulting.

I can’t believe you people don’t see i’m stuck in a corner here. The paint’s dripping and the brush is in my own hand, but here I stand, nevertheless.

To be totally honest, I’ve never actually seen this circumstance before. A self-defense vote that also breaks a tie and involves unvoting yourself? Mafia, you’re a fickle mistress.

Anyway. You say you’re town. You advance town’s interests best by unvoting yourself if that’s true. So unvote yourself. It shouldn’t require this much soul-searching. :smiley:

Let me put the situation to you this way, then choie. This is looking at the situation from your perspective (ie you know you are Town and do not know the alignment of Chucura)

Suppose you die today (and flip Town as you say), then there’s a good chance we’d lynch Chucura Tomorrow. Suppose for the sake of argument that he flips Scum then, is it better for a Scum to live through an extra Night? What if he’s the Godfather or Roleblocker?

In your mind isn’t it better to lynch a “possible” scum Today?

My vote count as of Post 906:

choie (8): GuiriEnEspana (712), DiggitCamara del[/del], Stanislaus (786), EnderW24 (788), choie (795), Mahaloth (799), [del]USCDiver (800-852)[/del], Meeko (817), Johnny Bravo (866), [del]Astral Rejection (871-887)[/del], Suburban Plankton (890)
Chucara (8): TexCat (733), DiggitCamara (804), choie (805), LightFoot (835), wombat99 (851), USCDiver (852), Mahaloth (863), Astral Rejection (891)
TexCat (4): GuiriEnEspana (712), Chucara (815), Astral Rejection (874), Suburban Plankton (894)
GuiriEnEspana (3): choie (795), Silver Jan (822), wombat99 (851)
fubbleskag (3): DiggitCamara (836), EnderW24 (846), Astral Rejection (876)
Babale (2): Stanislaus (786), wombat99 (851)
Silver Jan (1): GuiriEnEspana (712)
Suburban Plankton (1): DiggitCamara (759)
Stanislaus (1): Cookies (816)
LightFoot (1): Red Skeezix (864)
Mahaloth (1): Red Skeezix (864)
Red Skeezix (1): Johnny Bravo (866)
Johnny Bravo (1): choie (867)
Wombat99 (1): fubbleskag (882), Johnny Bravo (900)
EnderW24 (1): choie (905)
DiggitCamara (0): [del]Silver Jan (761-818)[/del], [del]Mahaloth (763-794)[/del], [del]TexCat (764-801)[/del], [del]Dizzymrslizzy (765-838)[/del], [del]Johnny Bravo (787-866)[/del]
USCDiver (0): [del]Red Skeezix (864-868)[/del]

I note Chucara hasn’t voted for Choie. If somebody else unvotes Choie, and he then votes for her, we’re back at a tie.

LOL, okay, well, maybe not the unvoting oneself part. I’m probably one of a masochistic few who’ve gone this route, which is not something I’m a proud of.

But certainly being one of the deciding factors by voting in a way that will hopefully save oneself is absolutely seen as a “you must be scum to self-preserve” move.

<bugs bunny> He don’t know me vewwy well, do he?</bugs bunny> I never require soul-searching! Please read the thread where I bemoaned my inability to kill bugs.

Oh crap. Well now this is an argument that is swaying me. I don’t think it will help at this point, though. I don’t think any of the people telling me to unvote myself are actually voting for me. And if I do, I just know at least one of you is gonna turn this right back in my face.

Well. If I’m willing to die, I guess I’m willing to die. Now it’s beginning to feel that I might as well unvote because if I’m killed for it, I should accept that fate.

All right. You win. Damn it to hell.

Unvote the nimrod who put herself in this dumbass position.

Story, presumably you know that means me.

Vote Choie for her late-day self defense vote.

I kid! I kid! :smiley:

This is the actual vote count as at post 906.

Chucara (8): TexCat (733), DiggitCamara (804), choie (805), LightFoot (835), wombat99 (851), USCDiver (852), choie (7): GuiriEnEspana (712), DiggitCamara del[/del], Stanislaus (786), EnderW24 (788), choie (795), Mahaloth (799), [del]USCDiver (800-852)[/del], Meeko (817), Johnny Bravo del[/del], [del]Astral Rejection (871-887)[/del], Suburban Plankton (890)
Mahaloth (863), Astral Rejection (891)
TexCat (4): GuiriEnEspana (712), Chucara (815), Astral Rejection (874), Suburban Plankton (894)
GuiriEnEspana (3): choie (795), Silver Jan (822), wombat99 (851)
fubbleskag (3): DiggitCamara (836), EnderW24 (846), Astral Rejection (876)
Babale (2): Stanislaus (786), wombat99 (851)
Wombat99 (2): fubbleskag (882), Johnny Bravo (900)
Silver Jan (1): GuiriEnEspana (712)
Suburban Plankton (1): DiggitCamara (759)
Stanislaus (1): Cookies (816)
LightFoot (1): Red Skeezix (864)
Mahaloth (1): Red Skeezix (864)
Red Skeezix (1): Johnny Bravo (866)
Johnny Bravo (1): choie (867)
EnderW24 (1): choie (905)
DiggitCamara (0): [del]Silver Jan (761-818)[/del], [del]Mahaloth (763-794)[/del], [del]TexCat (764-801)[/del], [del]Dizzymrslizzy (765-838)[/del], [del]Johnny Bravo (787-866)[/del]
USCDiver (0): [del]Red Skeezix (864-868)[/del]

The main differences from Suburban Plankton’s are (i) Wombat99 has two votes not 1, and (ii) Choie has 7 votes, not 8. (You’re all missing Johnny Bravo’s unvote in post 870.)

I’ll do a reformatted one before I go for tea.

Methinks you got a cut’n’paste error there, my friend…

Now I’m being confused with Diggit.

Bastard. :slight_smile: Now I’m really tempted to unvote Chucara.

I hope you people appreciate that I’ve been up for another 24-hour job and am still relatively lucid.

You got there before I did :smiley:

And I note that **MHaye’s **count does not reflect **choie’s **self-unvote in Post 910. Assuming it’s valid, the count is now

Chucara-8
choie-6

so she’s protected against an incoming Chucara-self-preservation vote.

Unrelated comment: 11% of the posts in this thread have been by me.

Good luck WoWing my on future days, folks!

I won’t vote. You guys seems so set on lynching me that there is no reason for me to try to keep myself alive.

I don’t have any tips to offer at this point other than to start looking at who is actively trying to look active yet not actually putting anything controversial out there.

No hard feelings, Happy gaming!

vote: Chucara

I don’t agree with the Choie lynch…He/She, really seems too genuine for me at this point…As well, I don’t like how Chucara was a vote leader yesterday and we were all quiet on her first thing today. You don’t go from almost being lynched to not being talked about at all today.

Depending on how Chucara flips, I am going to be looking into the Choie voters tomorrow.

/OOG Sorry I haven’t been very active today, My daughter’s birthday was yesterday, and we’ve been super busy prepping and planning for her party.

it’s customary for a player- ’ specially Town - to share their suspicions/thoughts on their way to the gallows ( and it can be helpful )
Scum do it too for miss-information of course
You are choosing to lay down and roll over?

Thanks for the pleasant send-off! See you next game, Chucara!