Oh, right:
pendant to Silver Jan
I do think she’s likely town. Astral, your case is not a bad one – she clearly DID mis-represent herself where you said she did, for instance – but I’ve seen townies do that before, and I’ve seen Silver Jan herself commit the other enumerated crimes before, and been a townie, I think. I’m not positive, but she’s one of the earliest reads I’ve had and for now I’m sticking with it.
Good Qs. I can deal with that.
So I am under the assumption that the pendants are most useful to those of that elemental- again not a fire elemental, so not really caring about the pendant.
Magical pendant- because what else is a Pendant? I’m imaging it to be some kind of necklace with a jewel encrusted flaming orb within it. Something out of a Dr. Strange Comic book like the Eye of Aggamotto or some such thing. :Shrug:
The ways of Magic users is not familiar to me- i know not their terms.
I don’t think it’s bad for a soldier to get it. But I don’t see what use I’d have for it. So I don’t care where it goes. Again 1 vote means nothing. If someone speaks up and says they have need of the pendant and it would help them- or that they’re of a similar element of the pendent, I’d probably give it to 'em. No one has made such a proclamation. So I’ll just throw it around. Again, let me know when some Armor or sheilds are available. I could have use for those.
The Scum/Townie question. No, I don’t assume anything about it. Rather it’s a Data point. I don’t view this game as a short term day to day game. That’s just foolish. I’m right now playing to get reactions and add to my collective knowledge. It can be useful for other players who may be investigative, and it may be useful to others who need to know how players are treating each other.
-I made a one off vote for a pendant. I got heat for it. Fair enough. I’m curious to see though who wants to view it as an Easy Lynch Target. Again, I’m the Control (I know my role, and I’m okay with Dying). So a lynch of me will provide further information for the Town. But I don’t intend to roll over and die. I’d like to see who wants to lynch me and WHY do they want to do it. I view it as the best use of my character at this point.
Townies have bad ideas. Scum have bad ideas. Though actually, I feel townie are more likely to go along with Bad ideas than Scum. Scum should be and are usually more careful than that- They do NOT want to put themselves out there and they do NOT want to get heat because in a game like this- we don’t know where LyLo is. We don’t know how long it’ll take to get there.
Scum may know their numbers, but they may be in the dark about SKs, PFKs, 3rd parties etc. And so again, they’re playing towards their goal as well- which is to survive to the end. Getting early heat on themselves is probably NOT the play they want, so I personally feel scum are less likely to follow/instigate bad ideas- but they certainly won’t mind joining them. Ie: a bandwagon is a perfect place to hide scum. But STARTING a bandwagon? That’s rougher because it gives more heat- but again, my strategy as scum would be layering the votes- if one person is known for getting heat, let them be that person, let them start it off, and better yet, encourage the Townies to make the bad ideas.
Make sense?
But i fully expect him to come back and vote as some point.
Sorry, I meant during the Day yesterDay.
Thanks for catching that.
Astral, do you know what the Pendant does?
Well he’s got about 3.5 hours.
Not a clue. I had another item kinda similar to it in addition to my armor, which is why I questioned his certainty that it was “good for magic users.”
You were never given any option to use or equip it in any way?
No. I was given no instructions on how to use it, if I could. I elected to attack instead of try the item on Day 1 because I thought it might yield information, and I chose to attack Normal Phase on Day 2 because that sounded fun, and learning what the item did would serve no purpose if I’m dead.
Here are my guesses for what it could do:
I intend to clarify that as soon as I can, and I’ll report back to town after Dusk during the Night when I use the item.
That you have, probably wilfully, reversed your ground for your vote on NAF. You’ve also misstated his activity level.
Let’s have a quick look at your vote post, [post=15001161]post 1934[/post]. What you actually said was: -
“w/o”, at least as I understand it, is an abbreviation for “without.” That is, you voted NAF for the levelling up without contributing. And yet replying to me you say: -
Those statements are directly contradictory.
And you’re right, I do remember your style. You are quite happy to lie as a Town just because, an approach I’ve never agreed with.
If that were true, that would be a null tell. It ensures his side is not disadvantaged for the period he could not participate. But it’s not. Ass at the time of writing, NAF has not posted oncxe in Day 3 - not even with the most generous definition of Day. (ATPG began the Dawn calculations in 1757; NAF last posted in 1752.)
NAF had at least twelve posts in N0-N1. I’d need to reread them to answer that.
He has been quiet Today, I’ll give you that. But we were warned about Day 2 in advance. I’d have behaved the same way if I’d have been in his situation.
My conclusion is that you are contradicting yourself, and I’m not going to reverse my vote without a very good reason.
This * might * help.
I used an item on another player D2
It seemed to have no effect
I’m almost certain it cannot be used to target someone.
It might do something else.
( not much but maybe more than some had)
(I didn’t think it would cause damage but wondered if it would affect the player some other way
To be fair, I think there is a distinct difference between ‘participating in the thread’ and ‘contributing to the game’.
Do we really have 13 players who have not voted Today?
By my count, the following people have been active Today but have no votes:
BobArrgh
fubbleskag
gnarlycharlie
Silver Jan
storyteller0910 (voted and unvoted NAF1138 in the same post)
Tanaer
These folks haven’t posted at all Today:
Lilflower
Mahaloth
NAF1138
PetW
realitytrip
Red Skeezix
And Mosier gets a pass (for the moment) for being Brainless.
NETA:
I missed the fact that **Tanaer **did vote for **Mosier **at one point, but has since unvoted,
Also, fubbleskag, Silver Jan, and Tanaer all have votes in on the Pendant, just not on the Lynch
To quote peekercpa: Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
A fair point. I suppose you could interpret “participatory” as meaning “has posted.” I do not.
That also doesn’t explain the claim that NAF has not contributed at all, since he plainly did on Day One.
ToeJam has posted many times, often with helpful pro-Town advice, but has never helped build any scum case. He tells us to use our votes to provide a record of our true sentiments, but uses his own votes to play games.
He claims, truthfully I imagine, that the peculiar vote was to help determine whether Players are soldiers or mages. But most (or all) players who fall for this trick will be Townies. If it’s good for Townies to reveal their class, explain that and ask. If it’s bad, then goading it is pro-Scum. Since it’s generally accepted that a multi-player Scum team is smarter than any single Town player, if ToeJam the Sage can draw a deduction, so can the Scum team.
FYI, you’ve been pinging me the whole game. I was about ready to vote you, and the peculiar Pendant gift dissuaded me: it was too blatantly anti-Town to be Scummy!!
Now that you’ve retracted it and explained its (pro-Scum) purpose, I feel more comfortable returning to my intuition. 
Unvote; Vote: ToeJam
Sorry I’ve still not contributed much yesterday & today (real time, that is). Mind is very much elsewhere.
vote count please? This plea goes out to anyone who’s of a mind to tally the scores, as I believe askthepizzaguy seems to prefer we do our own tallying.
I have a feeling my vote on Gadarene is the only one, and I’m a bit surprised, but maybe my instincts are off along with most of my brain cells.
I do think Lynch the Lurker idea promulgated by… uh, don’t remember… is a feasible one, for the reason s/he stated: if we let someone get mod-killed, and we lynch someone else, at least one of these lynches is likely to be a mislynch, possibly both. (Just going by the numbers here.) If we lynch just the lurker in danger of mod-killing, there’s one fewer possible mislynches on our hands. The odds are more in our favor if we’re in charge of the lynch rather than our glorious mod – or Phere and whoever’s making him dance.
i didn’t realize NAF’s absence. it certainly rubs me the wrong way that comes in to vote and disappear. i thought he said he’d be away though so i’ll take it as face value. while i understand Toejam’s vote, i’m giving NAF the benefit of the doubt.
i am troubled by the way MHaye seemed to make it seem that Toejam’s vote for NAF was suspicious when it was fairly clear to me that it was NAF’s kind of participation that Toejam was against.
Vote MHaye
I have completely lost track of when this Day will end, and do not have time to build a solid case on anyone, and won’t be able to for the rest of this day (small “d”). (My granddaughter has a school function tonight that we are attending, and we won’t get home until late tonight.)
Tanaer has pinged me as scummy because of her membership on the Astral wagon yesterDay, but that is not enough reason to vote her.
Normal Phase was high on my list when dawn started toDay for her very vocal participation in the Astral wagon, but after re-reading her posts last night, I have put her into my “Probably Townie” column.
NAF is, as ToeJam said, appearing to fly under the radar, and that strikes me as very interesting, so for now,
Vote NAF1138