[Mafia game] The Realm of Phere

[out of game]Just letting everyone know I could use a sub or two in my game on Idlemafia. Feel free to send me a message if you’re interested/can[/out of game]

I would love to but I think I would make an awful sub lol

Especially as I am playing already, it’s my split personality and all :stuck_out_tongue:

Carp ( to coin a phrase) when is EOD?

To quote the demon and/or game master:

Barely over half ( if that) have posted so far this Day

I’ll post later tonight, maybe. It was my brother’s college graduation, so we’ve been celebrating, and I’m seeing a concert tonight.

shrug

If the deathflip isn’t telling us T/S alignment, we’re playing noflip. If we’re playing noflip, what’s the point of the writeups? Why bother telling us someone was a Good Adventurer or a Neutral Rogue or an Evil Mage if that doesn’t give us any info on the game state?

You’re saying that you don’t enjoy a good writeup? For shame.

I’m not entirely sold on the premise, but I would say that evil isn’t necessarily scum.

Anything else, most likely.

After thinking long and hard about this, I have decided to

Unvote Visorslash

and

vote gnarlycharlie

Yes gnarly, I do know your playing style and you are pinging the hell out of me. Gad ** was very open about trying to lynch you and what do you know, Gad **is dead. You said very openly that you love the way we can talk off board in this game and yet you haven’t bothered to say anything to me. I have been chatting a lot off board and I have some people that I trust implicitly. I am waiting for the fallout for my vote but I think some others will back me up with more info than I have.

Unvote; Vote: Gnarlycharlie

:bow:

It may be that Visorslash is close to dying from Attacks, though that’s jumping to conclusions, but even if was assume it to be true, that fact cuts both ways.

If we had two strong Scum suspects, it might be logical to spare Visorslash as he’s likely to be Vig-killed anyway.

But what if the other suspect is likely to be yet another misLynch? If presented with two Lynch candidates and concerned that either might be a misLynch, now Lynching Visorslash would be the logical choice – less is lost, since he was soon to be Vig-killed anyway.

So what we need is another strong Scum suspect. I don’t have one. Scathach and Suburban are still the two pinging me most, but the pings aren’t strong and no one else is pursuing these cases.

Now Gnarlycharlie is presented as a candidate. I still get Townish vibes from him. His reticent style in this game is how I recall him playing when Town. And even those who think he’s likely to be Scum should heed the comment about prior damage. Gnarly has suffered more damage than anyone but Visor and actually went dead before a 100hp healing.

Thus it is Gnarly, not Visor, who would be easiest for the Town Vigs to kill, and therefore be the way to waste our Lynch. This seems clear to me.

This just in

as far as I know, ** Gad ** had ONE vistor last night

Do y’all think that’s what killed 'em?

Considering the death wasn’t via magic or something else long-distance, but rather a knife, I’d say it’s pretty likely.

But to be fair, Gadarene was so cagey and hypersensitive (overcompensating for guilt feelings?) I wasn’t certain he was Town myself. So honestly, I’m not 100% sold that someone who killed him is, perforce, scum.

To answer septimus, considering the damage they’ve taken so far, I think if enough of us concentrate attacks on either Visorslash or gnarlycharlie, without some specific protective spell, they’ll probably be toast. So it’s six of one, half-dozen of the other as far as which one to vig, which one to vote.

Unless, of course, you don’t think one of them is scum. In which case, IMHO, I still think it’s best to vote your conscience.

could you be more vague?

I had a PM with ** choie ** because ** silver Jan ** trusts 'em
The statement above is so watered down I’m jumping off that wagon

** gnarlycharlie ** visited ** gad ** last Night and Gad is dead… what y’all think?

Yeah, it’s called “considering options rather than jumping to conclusions.” You might give it a go.

Yep, it’s definitely a good idea not to trust someone because she’s a careful voter rather than being convinced merely by someone she has no proof is an actual witness.

I mean, this is the thing – even if you actually saw gnarly kill Gad, why are you assuming he killed Gad because he knew Gad was town? Don’t forget, Gad was the chief beneficiary of the Mosier lynching and his behavior was generally useless to Town considering all he did was post short declarative sentences without any backing proof, and go CAPSLOCK CRAZY at anyone, which seemed (to me) to be an attempt to seem full of faux righteous indignation. Gad would’ve been a perfectly reasonable lynch option as far as I was concerned. Maybe gnarly felt the same way.

Yes, he was Good, which we’re assuming means Town. But gnarlycharlie didn’t necessarily know that before the fact. Of course if he’s scum, then yeah, he knew it. But right now there’s no way to tell.

So I’m not trustworthy because I’m not taking your word as writ by God Himself. But why are you trustworthy by default? As I said before, there’s a bit too much “I saw Goody Proctor dancing with the devil!” in these “I saw ___ doing ____” accusations, when we can’t possibly prove what you’ve actually seen. In other words, Tituba, you can claim anything and there’s no way to disprove your accusations. Give us some back-up evidence of gnarlycharlie being scummy, something we can look at, rather than your utterly unprovable witnessing.

@ ** choie ** I’ve shared my investigations as such. it’s all I gots
the post you made as I mentioned was watered down- well maybe- wishy washy- in my opinion.-

my post had little to nothing to do with the ’ chat’ we had out of game.

Don’t believe me it matters not

NETA I’m not going to trust in PM’s it is not worth it to me.

most think Normal and choie are stamped Town. If they aren’t they deserve to kick Town’s buttocks.
i don’t drink anyone’s Koolaide. not laying down and rolling over

Fair enough, but you must see that on its own, it doesn’t tell us anything except that most likely, gnarly killed Gad. What if he finally got Vig powers and went after someone he thought was scum? Is that really, utterly, impossible to contemplate?

Maybe I was wishy-washy, but I am very aware that we’ve killed (or otherwise lost) a fuckton of Townies with only one known (or presumed) scum. That makes me much less inclined to leap to attacking someone who might have been acting in town’s interests, at least as he saw it. The idea is to kill scum, not each other.

Let me put it this way. Going back to Day One: You, a presumptive Townie, thought Mosier was scum, and voted for him. However, he wasn’t in any apparent danger of lynching, which may have been frustrating if you really thought him guilty. So if you’d had the ability to vig Mosier youself, would you have done it? Let’s say you decided to take matters into your own hands, because you could and by doing so, help rid Town of the scummy Mosier.

Now he’s dead. And, oops, turns out he flipped Town. “Crap, my bad!” thinks the LightFoot of this hypothetical story. “Oh well. Lucky no one saw me.”

But someone random, Silver Jan for example, actually did see you go into Mosier’s home. She reveals this.

What reaction do you want to see from the rest of us at this point? Would you want us all to believe with 100% certainty that you’re scum?

I mean geeze, I’m not a huge gnarlycharlie fan as he’s been playing in this game, and don’t get me wrong, his apparently killing Gad isn’t a point in his favor. But it’s not an absolute, and I prefer not to condemn him until we hear some explanations from him.

A wonderfully high-handed, almost regal response, but utter B.S. nonetheless. :slight_smile: Of course you want people to believe you. First, you wouldn’t be having this huffy reaction if you didn’t care. Second, more importantly, if at least a majority don’t believe you, the person you think is scum won’t be lynched, and that’s obviously a bad thing. So don’t tell me “it matters not.” It does matter, quite a lot in fact.

BTW, you don’t need the “@” sign, y’know. Just say my name, I’ll know you’re talking to me! :slight_smile: