[Mafia game] The Realm of Phere

Well, hold on there, hon – remember that Normal was the one who led the lynch mob on Astral the first time around, and we know he flipped Town at that point. I’m not saying Normal was necessarily wrong about septimus; I’m just mentioning this to clarify that I wasn’t, by bringing up Normal’s suspicions, intending to imply that she was definitely right; I just wanted to explain to septimus why you might not have trusted him at that point. Your reticence toward him is why he voted you, and I wanted him to understand that reticence.

Yeesh I have no idea if that paragraph made any sense.

I opened up to **Septimus **, cos I thought he was Town, he didn’t tell me too much :slight_smile: I have just re-read and it looked as if we trusted each other, what went wrong?

Wrong. I knew you were an Attacker; by sharing elemental information attacks could be directed most effectively. Gadarene and I were already cooperating in that fashion.

I’ve just PM’ed my details to guiri. I hope he doesn’t post them publicly just yet – let’s let Scum misclaim first – but if he finds me Scummy after the PM, I hope to submit my head to the guillotine with good grace.

While I’m perusing the startup thread, this on colour & mechanics:

[QUOTE=ATPG in the startup thread]

it has been foretold that a tremendously evil force will rise against the people of this kingdom, and that the unseen summoner or summoners of this force [mafia] are motivated by the desire for limitless power. It has also been revealed that the mastermind behind this attack is a **traitor **to the kingdom, not an outsider.

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Desire for limitless power
Summoner(s)
Mastermind

I’m inclined to think Weedy was summoner, with all the signs, etc. But not necessarily the mastermind. Visorslash was certainly searching for power. I’m still inclined to think he corrupted during the game, based on the writeup (the mention of the relentless attacks)

[QUOTE=ATPG in Signup Thread]
These adventurers are not an army. Many of these are simply skilled mercenaries motivated by **greed **and the promise of reward. Others feel it is their sworn **duty **to protect the defenseless. Still others have joined simply for the **[COLOR=DarkGreen]experience **[/COLOR]of an adventure and the chance to test themselves in battle. Some of these adventurers harbor a deep-seated distrust for others who have joined this group. Not everyone here is in this for anyone else but themselves. Many of these adventurers hail from races that despise one another and have been in a constant state of war for centuries. And there’s also the known traitor within their midst. In such a group of varied people, there’s also bound to be folks with unknown motivations.

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PetW was an adventurer? I still suspect he was scum tho.

On my previous point, the game has been designed so that mass claims will hurt town more than help. And scum have been given cover. I’m not sure whether the argument that we have nothing to lose in a mass claim washes with me, if our situation is dire but still winnable, which is how I interpret what ATPG has said. It may be that the indicator for the thing the scum need will be right there.

Do you mean “we” as in you and me? 'Cause I have total trust in you and hopefully vice-versa. Or did you mean “we” as in septimus and you? Sorry, pronouns give me a headache. :slight_smile:

I did and do have a Town read on you! The problem, as I stated when I voted you, is: Who is Scum? Most of my suspects went down last Night and, although Visorslash was “Evil” he wasn’t “Very Evil” which I think would be the mark of true Scum.

There’s been a lot of PM’ing I’ve not been privy to; my weak suspicion of you vanished when I heard support from your Townish PM partners.

Simply by process of elimination, scathach, glee, fubbsy, and – to be complete – septimus may be the most logical remaining Scum candidates. Since scathach may be near death from damage, his Lynch may be unnecessary. At this point I may be as likely as anyone to get Lynched toDay. But that would be a misLynch.

**choie
**I trust you, I trusted Septimus til he voted for me.

Scum are trying to not believe in our Town Team, right.

Unvote Septimus

Come on there are player out there that are scum

I could be a bit paranoid here but why don’t we look at Tanear and** Weedy** on D1, They were both looking after each other and then suddenly **Tanear ** distanced herself from Weedy totally.

Is this to cover me bringing up your entry with Weedy again SJ?

Really, how hard is this? Weedy is my bf out here in real life. She’s an experienced player & I’m a newb. Suddenly we were together in a game where I could talk to her & get the benefit of her experience. She bothered me from D1 which I was upfront with her about, but I didn’t trust my inexperience, and wanted the chance to play with her.

The only time I defended Weedy was when she was copping flak for something that was timezone related.

Gad had similar reactions but you still trust him, right?

Damn my bad luck. Two out of two games with Weedy and her scum in both.

This is me being obtuse: I don’t understand how that works. For example (and im making up these elements) If I’m element Air, and you’re element Water, how does that help us coordinate an attack on somebody whose element is unknown to us?

I was all set to reply about mages & elements then I remembered you’re not a mage- so, agreed. How could element possibly help any attack strategy?

So, I’m sitting here staring at the board waiting for posts instead of getting on with some schoolwork. And realise you could read bf another way, so I’ll just clarify the bleedingly obvious and state that Weedy is my best friend, and not a boyfriend. Now I’m gone for the nonce.

Tanaer, I suspect that accounting for and taking responsibility for one’s actions at this stage of the game isn’t the same as a mass role claim however I do not want the “claim” to distract us toDay. If people wish to fill in the blanks in public or via PM, I’ll compile the data.

Looking at the list of remaining players, I am not currently willing to lynch Gadarene, Astral, Septimus, Lightfoot, SilverJan, or choie.

That leaves:

  • Scathach, who I’m currently voting for and am quite convinced she’s a threat to town. Visor was able to heal himself so further attacks on Scathach may not suffice and she somehow survived a murder attempt last Night
  • Fubbleskag, who has not posted in a long time, I’d be happy to attack
  • Tanaer, who I really didn’t notice until I saw that he’d voted items to me on several occasions, thanks!
  • RealityTrip/Inner Stickler, barely noticed Inner since he returned
  • Lilflower/Glee, no opinion, can you really not talk about your previous reincarnation?
  • storyteller0910, is he alive?

I’m rather surprised that we’re at Day 6, end game apparently, and I’ve not got a strong feel on several players, time for a review.

You could bubble someone to death?

Seriously, I dunno. I suppose if Joe is Fire, and Sally is Earth, and they share info, and Sally separately shares info with Fred who turns out to be Water, presumably she could tell Fred (water) to attack Joe (fire).

But if Fred(water) isn’t a mage, he just gets to attack with a weapon anyway.

You do what Gadarene and I were doing. Report your element and result. Note whether target took Double Damage or Half Damage. Using your element as row and the half/double result, look up to the top of the Damage Table to determine Target’s element.

Oh thanks, Guiri, I guess that’s my inexperience showing. People have been using the words mass claim and I thought this was it. I didn’t think of roles. Thanks for clarifying.

Re the items, I’m female, and you’re welcome. You seemed a good bet to be town :slight_smile:

I won’t be attacking Today. Hanging up my sword. However I’m happy to look at any of the above for a lynch. I don’t know how much time I’ll have to dredge through posts tho.

I can’t remember the case on Scathach, but he doesn’t fill me with confidence gut wise.
Fubbles as 3rd party I’d not be considering, but Fubbles as the identifier that hasn’t apparently done any and didn’t reply to my request I’m much more happy with.
Inner does seem to have been ducking on return.
Glee doesn’t ping me at the moment. And why would he be able to talk about his previous character?
Storyteller is really bothering me - I got the impression he was one of the experienced folk and the silence is deafening.

Guiri, do you know what the blue ring you got from Weedy does?

For the 3rd time, isn’t this just a mage thing? As far as I know, this reasoning does not work if the attacker is a fighter type.

I suppose I should shut up, since I haven’t attacked anyone but Phere, so I’m doing a whopping great amount of assuming.

Now, it is true that in my one brief PM to you I did not blurt out that Gadarene and I were in contact, that I knew you and he were discussing targets, etc. I’m as bad at initiating dialog here as I am in real-life, and just started with the standard offer of element knowledge exchange that I made in most of PM’s I tried.

Had you responded in any way, e.g. “Why do you want to know?” the conversation might have developed. I think I’d pointed out to Gadarene that, independent of me, you and he could maximize your Attacks with such info exchanges. IIRC he implied you two were not doing that, which left me puzzled and worried about your alignment.

[QUOTE=Tanaer]
For the 3rd time, isn’t this just a mage thing? As far as I know, this reasoning does not work if the attacker is a fighter type.
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Maybe I’ve been confused about this. Gadarene, soldier type, implied to me that his results followed the schedule; but perhaps he was just getting “Normal” results in cases where Magic attacks would also get “Normal.”