[Mafia game] The Realm of Phere

Two things.

First, your vote doesn’t count. It needs to be bold.

Second, your first given reason for voting for fubbleskag is weak. Yes, we eventually need bandwagons… but not at the very beginning of the Day.

Who do you think is most scummy?

I have to dash off to work but ** glee’s ** first paragragh needs a tad more information
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Dawn/Dusk Events[spoiler]D1Attack on LordPhere, 80hp, Visorslash
Attack on LordPhere, 80hp, ToeJam
Attack on Lightfoot, 25hp, unknown
Attack on Visorslash, guarded, unknown.
Guard on Visorslash, Inner Stickler, takes 75hp
Attack on BobArrgh, 25hp, AstralRejection
Guard on Glee, BobArrgh
Attack on Visorslash, magic orb, 100hp, unknown
Attack on ToeJam, 50hp, LordPhere
Attack on InnerStickler, guarded, unknown
Guard on InnerStickler, Guiri, takes 50hp
Attack on RedSkeezix, 60hp, unknown

N1Attack on Visorslash, 100hp, blow by frenzied attacker, unknown
Attack on PetW, no damage, beam of magic, unknown
Heal on Guiri, 50hp, choie
Attack on Glee, killed, battle (blade), LordPhere
Attack on InnerStickler, killed, magic (ice?), LordPhere

D2Attack on NormalPhase, no damage, blow from sky, unknown
Attack on Fubbleskag, guarded, bolt of energy, unknown
Guard on Fubbleskag, no damage, NormalPhase
Attack on Visorslash, 50hp, group of gremlins, unknown
Attack on Visorslash, 100hp, orb of magic, unknown
Attack on Visorslash, 150hp, ferocious blow, unknown
Attack on choie, guarded, swinging weapon, unknown
Guard on choie, Guiri, takes 80hp
Attack on ToeJam, 25hp, unknown
Heal on Visorslash, 100hp, unknown
Heal on Visorslash, 100hp, unknown
Attack on LordPhere, 100hp, unknown
Attack on LordPhere, 25hp, unknown
Attack on LordPhere, 70hp, unknown
Attack on LordPhere, 80hp, ToeJam
Attack on AstralRejection, killed, unknown

N2Attack on Visorslash, 100hp, unknown
Attack on Guiri, killed, armored giant, LordPhere
Resurrection on Mosier, unknown
Resurrection on AstralRejection, unknown

D3Attack on SuburbanPlankton, no damage, Mosier
Attack on Mosier, 100hp, unknown
Attack on Mosier, 100hp, unknown
Attack on RealityTrip, 50hp, unknown
Attack on ToeJam, 100hp, unknown
Attack on LordPhere, 100hp, unknown
Attack on choie, 100hp, LordPhere, wind
Attack on MHaye, 100hp, LordPhere, earth
Attack on NormalPhase, no damage, LordPhere, ice
Heal on choie, 100hp, unknown
Heal on AstralRejection, 100hp, unknown
Attack on LordPhere, 80hp, unknown
Attack on ToeJam, killed, Lord Phere

N3Attack on Weedy, killed, burst of fire, LordPhere
Resurrection on Guiri, unknown
Attack on Gnarlycharlie, 100hp, orb of energy, unknown

D4Attack on Gnarlycharlie, 200hp, magical power unknown
Attack on Gnarlycharlie, 100hp, bolt, unknown
Attack on Mosier, 50hp, bolt, unknown
Attack on Visorslash, 100hp, Mosier
Attack on Believerer, 50hp, Lightfoot
Attack on RealityTrip, 100hp, unknown
Attack on Tanaer, 100hp, unknown
Attack on SuburbanPlankton, 75hp, unknown
Attack on choie, guarded, unknown
Guard on choie, [color=blue]NormalPhase, no damage
Heal on Gnarlycharlie, 100hp, unknown
Heal on Guiri[/color], 100hp, Guiri
Heal on choie, 0hp, unknown
Attack on MHaye, killed, LordPhere
Attack on LordPhere, 100hp, shiny ring/fireball, unknown

N4Attack on Scathach, 50hp, magic, unknown
Attack on Gadarene, killed, bladed weapon, unknown
Attack on choie, 100hp, unknown
Heal on choie, 100hp, unknown
Attack on BobArrgh, killed, giant mace LordPhere, mod-kill
Attack on PetW, killed, ice spell, LordPhere, mod-kill
Attack on Mahaloth, killed, LordPhere, mod-kill

D5Attack on Beliverer, killed, mod-kill
Attack on NAF, killed, mod-kill
Attack on RedSkeezix, killed, mod-kill
Attack on Fubblesksag, no damage, orb of light, unknown
Attack on Glee, 75hp, orb of water, unknown
Attack on Tanaer, 75hp, orb of earth, unknown
Attack on SuburbanPlankton, 300hp, orb of fire, unknown
Attack on Gnarlycharlie, 50hp, whip, unknown
Attack on Gnarlycharlie, 25hp, arrow, unknown
Attack on Gnarlycharlie, 100hp, violent blow, unknown
Attack on Gnarlycharlie, 100hp, glowing ring/orb of light, Guiri
Attack on Visorslash, 100hp, Mosier
Attack on Mosier, killed, LordPhere
Attack on Scathach, 100hp, magic power, unknown
Attack on LordPhere, 150hp, unknown
Attack on LordPhere, 100hp, unknown

N5Attack on Scathach, shielded by gauntlet, unknown
Attack on Scathach, 100hp, white orb of magic, unknown
Attack on Scathach, 600hp, burning orb, unknown
Attack on Visorslash, 100hp
Heal on Guiri, 50hp, Guiri
Resurrection on Gadarene, unknown
Attack on Glee, shielded, dark energy orb, unknown
Attack on Visorslash, killed, unknown
Attack on NormalPhase, killed, unknown
[/spoiler]
Player Summaries[spoiler]
---------------------------------------4. Scathach[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted Lightfoot
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted Tanaer
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 3
Voted BobArrgh
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 4
Voted No vote
Attacked/Guarded ?

Night 4
Attacked by unknown, magic, 50hp

Day 5
Voted Guiri
Attacked by unknown, magic, 100hp
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 5
Attacked by unknown, shielded
Attacked by unknown, 100hp, orb of magic
Attacked by unknown, 200hp, burning orb[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------6. Fubbleskag[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted No Vote
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted Gadarene
Voted items to Visorslash
Attacked by unknown, no damage
Guarded by NormalPhase
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 3
Voted No vote
Voted items to AstralRejection
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted No vote
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 5
Voted No vote
Attacked by unknown, no damage, orb of light
Attacked/Guarded?[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------8. Gadarene[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted AstralRejection
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted Weedy
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 3
Voted Believerer
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted MHaye
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 4
Attacked by unknown, killed, bladed weapon

Day 5
DEAD

Night 5
Resurrected by unknown[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------10. Astral Rejection[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted MHaye
Attacked BobArrgh, dealt 25hp

Day 2
Voted NormalPhase
Voted items to SilverJan and Fubbleskag
Attacked by LordPhere, killed
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 2
Resurrected by unknown

Day 3
Voted SilverJan
Voted items to AstralRejection
Received Pendant (fubbleskag, Weedy, choie and self)
Healed by unknown, 100hp
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted MHaye
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 5
Voted Mosier
Voted items to NormalPhase, Guiri and self
Received Red Bow (Guiri, Tanaer and self)
Attacked/Guarded?[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------13. Septimus[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted AstralRejection
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted AstralRejection
voted items to Choie, NormalPhase and Lightfoot
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 3
Voted ToeJam
voted items to self
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted Scathach
Voted items to Guiri, choie and self
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 5
Voted Visorslash
Voted items to Lightfoot, Tanaer, Guiri, SilverJan and Glee
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 5
Voted items to choie and Tanaer[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------14. Guiri[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted AstralRejection
Guarded InnerStickler, took 50hp

Night 1
Healed by choie, 50hp

Day 2
Voted AstralRejection
Guarded Choie, took 80hp

Night 2
Promoted to WhiteMage
Attacked by LordPhere, killed, armored giant

Day 3
DEAD

Night 3
Resurrected by unknown

Day 4
Voted Scathach
Voted items to self
Received Blue ring and Diamond ring (Septimus, Tanaer, Choie and Bobarrgh)
Healed self, 100hp

Night 4
Guarded self

Day 5
Voted Mosier
Voted items to NormalPhase, AstralRejection, SilverJan, choie and self
Received White scepter (AstralRejection, Tanaer, Septimus and self)
Attacked Gnarlycharlie with Diamond ring, 100hp

Night 5
Promoted to WhiteKnight
Voted items to choie, NormalPhase and Lightfoot
Healed self, 50hp

[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------16. Lightfoot[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted Mosier
Attacked by unknown, 25hp

Day 2
Voted Scathach
Voted items to self
Received Sapphire Ring (NormalPhase, septimus and self)

Night 2
Watched ToeJam, saw nothing

Day 3
Voted Gnarlycharlie
Used item on Believerer, no effect

Night 3
Watched NormalPhase, saw Gnarlycharlie

Day 4
Voted Gnarlycharlie
Voted items to self
Attacked Believerer

Night 4
Watched Gadarene, saw Gnarlycharlie

Day 5
Voted Gnarlycharlie
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 5
Voted items to self
Received Staff (Guiri, NormalPhase and self)
Watched Fubbleskag, saw nothing[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------17. SilverJan[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted VisorSlash
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted AstralRejection
Voted items to Gadarene, NormalPhase and self
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 3
Voted No vote
Voted items to self
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted MHaye
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 5
Voted Mosier
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 5
Voted items to Visorslash[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------18. choie[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted AstralRejection
Attacked/Guarded ?

Night 1
Healed Guiri, 50hp

Day 2
Voted NormalPhase
Voted items to SilverJan and self
Received Emerald ring (septimus, Weedy, NormalPhase and self)
Attacked by Visorslash, guarded
Guarded by Guiri
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 3
Voted Gadarene
Voted items to AstralRejection
Attack by LordPhere, 100hp
Healed by unknown, 100hp
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted NormalPhase
Voted items to [Guiri
Attacked by unknown, guarded
Guard by NormalPhase
Healed by unknown, 0hp
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 4
Attacked by unknown, 100hp
Healed by unknown, 100hp

Day 5
Voted Mosier
Voted items to self
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 5
Voted items to self
Received Healing Potion (Guiri, NormalPhase and self)[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------20. Tanaer[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted No Vote
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted Choie
voted items to self
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 3
Voted No vote
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted SuburbanPlankton
Voted items to Guiri
Attacked by unknown, 100hp
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 5
Voted SuburbanPlankton
Voted items to NormalPhase, AstralRejection, Guiri, and self
Attacked by unknown, 75hp, orb of earth
Attacked/Guarded?[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------24. RealityTrip/InnerStickler[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted Mahaloth
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted NormalPhase
Voted items to choie, SilverJan and Guiri
Attacked by unknown, no damage
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 3
Voted No vote
Attacked by unknown, 50hp
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted No vote
Attack by unknown, 100hp
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 5
Voted Gnarlycharlie
Attacked/Guarded?

[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------25. Lilflower/Glee[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted Gadarene
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted no vote
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 3
Voted No vote
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted No vote
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 5
Voted Gnarlycharlie
voted items to self
Received Teal Harp (Mosier, Septimus and self)
Attacked by unknown, 75hp, orb of water
Attacked/Guarded?

Night 5
Voted items to Tanaer[/spoiler]

---------------------------------------28. Storyteller[spoiler]
Day 1
Voted No Vote
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 2
Voted No Vote
Attacked/Guarded ?

Day 3
Voted No vote
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 4
Voted No vote
Attacked/Guarded?

Day 5
Voted SuburbanPlankton
Attacked/Guarded?

[/spoiler][/spoiler]

Guiri, that is phenomenally useful. Thanks for the hard work!

I’ll fill you in on my actions when I get a chance.

I liked the 2nd spoiler, I hadn’t realised quite how bad I was :frowning:

Thanks for pointing that out.

Look, I missed voting yesterday (I got confused by the delays), so I’m getting a vote in early so I get my promotion.
And I need a promotion since I’ve been attacked by Lord Phere…

I’m prepared to change my vote later, but I don’t have any reason to point the finger at anyone else so far.

Vote Fubbleskag

Who do you think is most scummy?

Also (and this is directed to everyone), I think fubbleskag would make a much better coordinated-attack target. His lynch will yield little information, because of his anemic posting and voting history. If he’s third-party as some suspect, we won’t be closer to finding scum.

An obvious objection: if we attack him and lynch someone else, what’s the functional difference?

My answer: the lynch itself is information. Plus, the coordinated attack might fail if our target has too much HP to overcome in one Day. I’d rather it fail on a possible third party who won’t provide much information than someone else.

I agree that fubbleskag is a good target for a coordinated attack.

I was hoping to hear from fellow-Townies who’d been in contact with Jan. My suspicion was based on a single-sentence PM, with my follow-on questions unanswered. Astral has been less forthcoming with me than with you, not answering the single questioning PM I sent him, but that may be personal rather than scummy.

If we also absolve Inner Stickler and low-participation storyteller0910, the list of residual players is hugely reduced:

[del]Lilflower[/del] Glee
Scathach
Fubbleskag
Pizza himself?

Scathach has been heavily damaged, so may be taken out by Attackers. “3rd-Party” Fubbs seems anti-Town (has he stopped inspecting items?) so good to Lynch, but do we need to? He hasn’t posted since May 5; is he up for Mod-Kill? BTW, I dimly recall mention of him inspecting an item but not returning it. Did that happen, or was it a hypothetical?

Anyway, for now
Vote: Fubbleskag

First of all, HUGE thanks to Astral and Guiri for compiling those lists. Guiri, I’m going to PM you with some info.

Yeah, gonna agree with you guys about fubbles. And it’s an excellent point that some of the non-participating folks are better attack targets because they probably haven’t leveled up to be nearly attack-proof. Like Scathach appears to be, holy cow, girlfriend is like those Timex watch ads (geezer alert!): takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

In fact, I would like to hear from those of you who attacked Scathach exactly why you want her dead so unbelievably badly. I’m not saying I disagree, but it’s clear that her hp is too high to deal with in an attack, so if you’re willing to make another public case, maybe she’s a better vote target than attack target.

As far as who I find most scummy… well, that’d be fubbles, actually, which shouldn’t come as a surprise since my worries about him date back to the beginning of this game. I still hold out my belief that the third party players in this game are the dangerous ones rather than a cohesive scum team. The fact that the only evil people we’ve seen have been 3rd party backs me up, I think. (Even gnarlycharlie was neutral/neutral, which is only a step away from evil; if my theory of “Phere is the One Ring” is correct, maybe he just never got to carry Phere’s chains, which is why he didn’t get fully corrupted?)

Beyond fubbles, well, RealityTrip was pinging my scumdar slightly before s/he was replaced, so I’d say the replacement is now my second fave choice. The truth is that I trust the revived folks implicitly (barring a time bomb mechanic that I’m hoping is not the case), and myself obviously, as well as those who’ve guarded me. That eliminates six people. Many of the rest are lurkers or subs for lurkers who haven’t made an impression yet.

One of the lurkers who doesn’t fit into the “recently undead” category is my third place scum choice: the person with the fewest substantive posts who got unbelievably defensive (and offensive, IMHO) when I pointed this out. So that would be Storyteller.

Ooops.

Unvote; Vote: Fubbleskag

I can go along with that, but then who the hell is scum :confused:

Hm. Well, now that Normal’s dead, I can probably tell you why Silver Jan, if not Astral, may have been unforthcoming to you: Normal, whom I believe Silver Jan trusted most throughout the game (along with me, I’m proud to say, as well as herself of course) basically sent us a “goodbye” PM with her role claim and a long explanation as to why she was almost certain you were scum due to what she believed was your fishing attempts at finding her vulnerabilities. So it’s quite possible that Silver Jan was unwilling to trust you because she agreed with Normal’s assessment.

Wait, why are we doing that again? Inner is what RealityTrip was, and RT earned many askance glances during her brief period of activity. So why are you absolving Inner? And why storyteller0910 (glad you included the numbers, I am hopeless at remembering usernames with numbers in 'em)?

At first I was going to repeat the point made in Visorslash’s hysteria-laden SCUM! SCUM! post at me when I suggested maybe lynching pizza might be an option, because at the beginning of the game pizza said he couldn’t be lynched. Truth is, I just forgot about that rule. However, now I remember that now-known-to-be-Evil Visorslash was so adamant about not attacking/lynching pizza that maybe there’s something to that idea after all.

I don’t remember hearing of fubbles not returning an item. And I don’t think pizza is doing any more mod-kills; I recall him saying we needed to deal with lurkers ourselves. I’m assuming the reason why is due to balance issues. Though it might be that he doesn’t want to mod-kill the lurkers because they’re on the scum / Evil team, and he doesn’t want to do our job for us?

Septimus: You asked for a trade of information, my element for yours. I saw no benefit in telling you, because that information would only help someone do extra damage in an attack against me.

I got a ton of PMs from people that night, and I’m sorry I didn’t respond to yours. I meant to deal with it during the following Day, but forgot when dawn rolled around several real-world days later.

I wish you would stop looking for personal slights where none are intended.

So this is my actions for inclusion. Can’t see what use they’ll be to PM if they’re going to be reported anyway.

D1 No action - I blew both action & vote
N2 fighter - no action
D2 Attack Lord Phere, 70hp
N2 fighter - no action
D3 … can’t find an action, looks like I forgot to put one in. :frowning:
N3 fighter - no action
D4 attack Lord Phere with ring, 100hp
N4 Change to berserker
D5 attack Lord Phere 150hp
N5 Change back to fighter

Choie, my BAD, I had forgotten what** Normal ** had confided in us, **Normal **is probably haunting me now! OMG

Unvote Fubbleskag

Vote Septimus

This just makes sense. Septimus is trying to make cases about players that are so Townie. How could I forget** Normals** words?

Having volunteered my info, this from the signup thread:

Good point, Tanaer. It’s something to consider. We’re supposedly at end game, though, so I don’t see how things could get worse for us.

Silver Jan, I have a strong town lean on you, but I’d still like to see actual case making, not a snap vote with no justification beyond “Normal wanted him dead”

I hear you Astral, I will get to it in the morning, a bit too tired now. I tend to trust my gut though.

I have just been taught how to do multiple quotes, yay! **Septimus **seems to be floundering with his votes, 2 on you 1 on me for no real reason. I will check up on what Normal confided.