I have no idea what you mean with your first sentence.
I might be mixing up games. Is this the game where first second and third place lynchees all take damage?
No. Which game is doing that?
I don’t know…
So only the first lyncher takes damage?
Well, he winds up dead, if that’s what you mean by damage.
I am now intensely curious how you could have come by such a misconception.
I read it somewhere, I cannot remember where. I was sure it was this game though.
It did not occur to me to protect myself. (I realize this actually says more about my RL personality than my in-game persona. Hmmmm; food for personal thought.)
Anyhow, here are several reasons why a person might choose to protect a stranger, especially on D1:
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Player A knows he has an affinity with Player B (Scum/Scum, Town/Town, or any other alignments that might be in play in the game).
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Player A suspects he has an affinity with Player B.
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Player A decides to do something positive (as opposed to negative) in order to shift alignments in some fashion.
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Player A decides to attempt an action to explore the effects. There is a reason why armies put their recruits through hours of weapons training. You don’t want to be using a weapon (or in this case, a power) for the first time in a real battle situation.
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Player A may not have a clue about what’s going on.
I chose to protect Glee based on one or more of the above.
I find myself agreeing with choie with regards to Visorslash.
I’ve never played with him before and haven’t read any games that he’s been in, so I am not familiar with his playing style. I almost wonder if he has a role that requires him to be such a PITA. The way this game has rules about death not necessarily being the end of the game for a player, it wouldn’t surprise me if Visorslash is trying to get whacked due to some power he will receive if it happens.
Man, a mechanism like that would suck.
Why do my posts smell like scum, Visor? Which ones? Do you have any support for your assertions?
I can’t respond to “Gad’s posts have been scummy,” and if you’re town you should want me to be able to respond, either to dig a deeper hole for myself (and possibly implicate my scumbuddies) or to give me a chance to clear myself. If you’re town, you don’t want to lynch a fellow townie, right?
…Right?
It may just be** Visorslashes’ ** play style that sets my teeth on edge or then again I could be right about his being scum. I wanted to see how he played on D2 to see if he changed at all or did more scummy looking things. I was thinking that it could have been scum attacking him during the Day and when/if he flipped Town then they could start a wagon on those that voted for him.
I mentioned it yesterday (or the day before RL) in my post that Astral was 2nd in line to for the lynch when I was wondering how all those extra votes worked. I haven’t forgotten about that. I still don’t know how they worked.
OOG Mr SJ is doing fine, just a bit uncomfortable with having a portable drip /OOG
No, it’d be my playstyle. As you have noticed, I am a regular run of the mill asshole. But the blame doesn’t lie completely with me. I’m generally not that bad, at least I like to think so, but my ‘warm’ welcome here hasn’t made me very fond of this place, though I actually like the forum itself.
Gadarene, basically, you overreacted and said some scummy things which I don’t care to analyse as I need sleep. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe.
Well, thanks for giving specifics, anyway. :rolleyes:
Between you and PetW advocating that everyone just attack me, I am stunned and impressed at the high quality of reasoning behind my wagon.
Do you think you’re overreacting a bit? You posted in a way that you had to know would draw attention to yourself, and now you’re surprised that it drew you attention.
I’m sorry you don’t much like us here, but remember we’re just playing a game, we aren’t actually attacking you as a person.
I’d like to hear more substantive things from gnarlycharlie.
What** Astral** said, we really are quite nice most of the time…except when…and there was the time that… j/k.
Has Red posted at all yet? I don’t think I have seen a post from him.
BTW how many hours until Day starts, I would like to know if I am likely to be awake or not.
I think he posted one time.
If I’m correct we have about 5 hours til Day
He posted once and I really need to see a lot more than that from him. When he’s all but disappeared lately in my experience, most of the time he’s been scum, and whether that’s fair or not it really bothers me to see it potentially happening again.
Sorry I’m confused. What reactions were you expecting? I mean, do you mean reactions from all of us in general (which I think I’d classify as ‘warily noncommital’) or from the protected targets? Or the protectors, for that matter?
One thing that I don’t think we’ve discussed that much (and if we did, I’m sorry for forgetting) is: why were these specific attack targets picked in the first place? Not why did people protect them, which we’ve definitely discussed, but why did someone or something attack them? We’re a little hampered by the fact that as the color said, some of the attacks were “in house” (by other players) and some were from the demon. These two entities may not have the same motives for attack.
Like, I can understand a Townie attacking Visorslash (oh boy can I understand it! :D) since he’s been so antagonistic that he may have been viewed as a distraction. OTOH, a Mafia/Scum player could’ve attacked him just to hide under the radar; Visor’s made it easy to dislike him and Scum may have wanted to kill a Town Visor just because it would seem so understandably Townie to do so. Meanwhile, Phere may have tried to attack him for reasons unknown to us at this time.
I’m also curious about the use of a magical orb, btw. It might not be significant but Phere, this demon who seems massive with probably tons of hp and probably claws and teeth… not to mention his own damn army… why use some magical orb rather than a swipe of his claws?
Anyway that’s the sort of stuff I’m pondering this morning. As I mentioned earlier, the attack on Red Skeezix came from out of nowhere, but the explanation posited earlier that it might’ve been an attempt by either a player or our GM to force him to react may be accurate. I’m less convinced by the player argument, if only because of the weird number of hit points. As I said, so far all hit points except for Red were in multiples or divisibles (crap, what’s the math term?) of 25. So why 60? Might not be worth pursuing but whenever I see a discrepency in past behavior, my spidey-sense starts a-tingling.
Gadarene has been defending himself vociferously without doing that much scumhunting, but in fairness to him, he’s been the focus of a near-lynch and obviously a lot of us are suspicious of the guy who was one of the receivers of what appears to be an attempt to save him, or Astral, or both. So I’d expect him to be on the defensive. Also, as much as I’d like to accept his kind words from last night calling me “incisive” and “townie,” it could have been snuggling. So I guess my read on him is.. I don’t know. It will be very interesting to see what, if anything, happens to him by Dawn.
septimus… oy, are you really expecting me to give you my thoughts on him? 
He’s been noticeably quiet throughout the game, posting only 8 times, which IIRC seems unusual for him. (I could be misremembering; also, one of the reasons he might’ve been so active in our previous game was that he was targeted for lynching a few times, so he probably had to make defensive posts aplenty.) As I’ve said, nothing would give me greater pleasure than to lynch a scum septimus, purely for OOG and dumbass meta reasons that I really really am trying to curtail, but so far I’m not seeing anything that pings me either way. Dammit. What do you think, Normal Phase?
Visorslash risks being a distraction, but y’know, I felt exactly the same way about askthepizzaguy during De’endee, and it turned out he was Town, so there you go, so much for my instincts. Annoying-as-hell playstyle does not equal Scummitude. Doesn’t help Town, though, which is something I really really wish he’d consider. (Assuming he is Town, natch.)
Finally (and there was much rejoicing!) there’s the notion that Gadarene was not the only person who benefited from the weird quadruple vote on Mosier or the extra silent vote on Gadarene. Second-place Astral could have been easily targeted by whoever-the-hell placed all those extra votes, but wasn’t. And maybe, just maybe, instead of looking at the supposedly saved (or injured) lynch leaders, we shoudl be looking at the people who voted for them. Was someone who voted for Mosier so convinced of his guilt–or the other candidates’ innocence–that they had to quadruple or triple his final score? If one or more Scum folks knew that Gadarene and Astral were scum (either or both), then the same question applies. Meanwhile, were the voters on Gadarene and Astral trying to cover themselves by voting for fellow scum while planning to attack Mosier all along to save their buddy?
And why the extra invisible votes, dammit? Why?!! They throw such a spanner into the works.
I guess my final analysis of those votes is the earth-shattering conclusion that either Astral or Gadarene is likely scum… or not. Yeah, really helpful, I know.
… And basically I’m telling you everything you’ve probably already figured out. Seems crazy to attempt to advise someone as experienced as Normal Phase! But I guess my own motives are the ones being examined, less so the two folks (septimus and Gadarene) she asked about. (Or at least, equally.)
Whew. That’s enough for me I guess.