Mafia Reunion - Day Two

[BillMC]

Strewth what a lot to catch up on. comments/notes as I go…

@Chronos

BillMC, is that what you meant to say? You think that Colby is Scum, and you think that there’s a good argument for ToeJam over Lakai, but you’re voting Lakai just because a lot of other folks are?

No, that is not what I said. My gut feeling is that colby is scum, based on how he has responded to being accused of being scum. Out of the lynch leaders, the I thought the case on Toejam was better than the case on Lakai - so I voted Toejam not Lakai.

@Normal_Phase

At this rate of participation the only way town is winning this game is if scum kills each other off (or are among those getting modkilled). Good job everybody.
/cranky

I guess cranky is easier to understand than your countdown and whelp comments. Why do you think the level of scum participation is higher than the level of town participation?

@Biotop

Almost 1200 posts, but…
Currently over half of all Day1 posts have come from 10 posters, one of whom is a mod.

Quantity doesn’t equate to quality, the signal to noise ratio is very low.

@Drain_Bead

Am I missing a Lakai roleclaim somewhere?

Drain effectively asking for a claim, and Lakai obliges a few minutes later.

@Lakai

I’m vanilla town guys. No one important.

Next post Hoopy reaffirms his vote on Lakai, and MHaye pops in 4 posts later, expresses suspicion of Septimus “Without the claim I’d probably be voting for him now,” and then votes Lakai who had claimed 13 minutes earlier, and then expresses suspicion of colby a few posts later.

Nesta and Bufftabby subsequently vote Lakai
Ender votes Toejam
Chronos acknowledges that Lakai has claimed then votes Toejam, and suggests that the comp vig shoot amongst the vote leaders (#1198)

#1204 MHaye expresses further suspicion of Colby, leaves vote where it is.
Faulkner switches from Lakai to Toejam
Cookies votes Toejam
16-14-7 Lakai, Toejam, Colby
Nanook switches from Colby to Lakai
Lakai switches from Angel to Toejam

and its day over

3 day - that’s unexpected:
-Lakai is dead. He was a Vanilla Townie.
-Normal Phase is dead. She was the Investigative Journalist.
-Finally, Septimus is dead. He was the EMT.

I’m surprised that Septimus was targeted - the outrider could have killed him based on his stated plan to self protect, or the mafia could have targeted him, but surely the watcher would have kept an eye on septimus and seen the killer…not a good 1 for 1 trade for either scum team. Even for a day SK, getting seen killing Septimus would have been a bad move - unless such a day SK cant be seen?

Killing septimus would have been a bad move for either scum team, so Normal was most likely the Mafia kill.

@Chronos

Of course the D1 lynch happened. How did you think Lakai, the vote leader, died?

Losing the Investigative Journalist sucks, of course, but this is why we have an understudy. Unless we lose the Cop or the Seer tonight (knock wood, I hope not!), the Understudy should probably pick up the Investigative Journalist role.

The simplest interpretation of that set of kills is that the Mafia killed Normal, and the Wolf Outrider killed septimus, who apparently was actually self-protecting (I was kind of hoping that he wouldn’t, just to fake out the Outrider). Apparently the Wolves didn’t share septimus’ assessment that he wasn’t worth killing, because he didn’t interfere with him.

Alternately, of course, it’s possible that septimus wasn’t self-protecting, and one of those deaths was from a third party. We’ll know more by Dusk 2, I guess (when it’d be obvious if we again have a second non-lynch death).

I guess this interpretation assumes that the Watcher didnt buy Septimus’ claim and thus wouldn’t watch him?
Lightfoot, biotop agree with chronos; boozy suggests third party killer, but thinks outrider is most likely
discussion on outrider/emt interaction/outcomes

Agree with #1255 thing fish “I hope our Watcher watched septimus last night …I can’t see who else the Watcher might plausibly have targeted.”

@raventhief

Both factions have both the official kill - Mafia day kill, Wold night kill, plus they have the Hitman/Outrider than hits opposite, right?

So lynch, Mafia Day Kill, and Outrider hit, I think.

I hate not editing. WOLF, not Wold, and THAT not than. Which may imply that any third party killers aren’t active during the day.

seems sure that the outrider was responsible for septimus

thing fish vote count 14-7-6 lakai, toejam, colby (#1272)

@Thing_Fish

I don’t think so. Here is the last vote count we have. I realize a lot happened after that – mainly Toejam made a big run – but we know that wasn’t scum-motivated.

It’s likely that the run on Toejam wasn’t scum trying to save Lakai - but Thing Fish doesn’t know that for certainly unless they are scum. - Plankton raises same point in #1282/#1285/#1297. agree with plankton’s view

@Thing_Fish

As someone whom** Normal** wanted to “snuggle so hard”, I would caution against trying to figure out why the scum chose the kill they did, especially when we don’t even know for sure which was the scum kill. I’ve never seen it be helpful to Town.

I think the list of Normal’s votes is helpful because she’s a good player and we know she was Town, but that’s it.

disagree - we have two scum teams and at least a town compulsory vig (who couldn’t have killed normal (unless the switches change batman from night to day?)) figuring out who is killing who for what reasons helps narrow down who is scum.

more discussion on outrider/emt interaction

subs:
Paulwhoisaghost - in for Winston Smith
And back for an encore performance Lakai in for Daphne Black!

even more discussion on the outrider

1447 posts…jeez. and now on to day 2