The first Night ended and we have two kills. And some investigation results, so the Town is completely in the dark. I wonder how they’ll handle toDay.
I too find it interesting that amrussel was attacked Blaster, and I would like to hear from the coroner…but not because I think he was telling the truth.
“is not completely in the dark” :smack:
Well, a Coroner will be easy enough to verify, eventually. At the end of toDay, everyone will see the Side of OaOW. So, if sachertorte is lying, he’ll get caught, and they can lynch him on Day Three… A nice two-Day delay if he’s scum.
Near as I could tell,
[Bandwagonning? U?] The? Third Vote[r?] as a Scum Tell Is A Scum Tell.
[Buttering Up?]
I didn’t see who actually posted it first, or if someone filled in the phrase?
It’ll be interesting to see if there are multiple “lame duck” role claims that can pile up while waiting for results, and if the scum will use it to their advantage.
Bringing Up The Third Vote As A Scum Tell Is A Scum Tell
Thanks. I had figured out that it related to the whole third vote thing, but couldn’t for the life of me figure out the exact wording. It was driving me nuts.
BTW we need another sub in the firefly game. The newbies keep dropping out.
If anyone over here wants to join up PM me or Kat.
From post 684 in the game thread:
I can’t really respond there, but I want to describe my thinking.
The slow release of Side info hinders the Town and makes it easier for false claimers. And the slow release of the Role hinders the scum sides, since it takes them a while to know when they’ve hit someone important. The Coroner Role was created to circumvent the slow release, but at a cost: both Town and scum will get the information early. To get this information out reliably, a Coroner will have to claim. And then be vulnerable to being targeted.
When/if a Coroner is confirmed, the Town may come to rely on the instant information reveal, only to have it taken away again. There’s only a limited amount of protective Roles in this game, not everyone with an important Power can be saved.
Edit: fixed url.
Do we get to have an Idle Thoughts freak out now?
It’s now or never.
Any observers want to hazard a guess on the truthfulness of either sachertorte or Idle?
My guess would be that sach is telling the truth and Idle isn’t buying it, but is also town.
This is based entierly on what I know about how they play, not on analysis of what they are actually saying. (I am starting to think that what people actually say in these games is a distraction, at best, and more frequently a full blown con job.)
Because it doesn’t make sense for sach to not reveal more, but it is not out of character for him to hold that info back, just in case. And it is totally within Idle’s townie character to attack him for such behavior.
I don’t think Idle is the Witchdoctor, but I’ll admit I can’t read his posts. All he does is quote other players and make a one sentence comment after each quote. It’s annoying.
Ah, here we go with the ALL CAPS!! from Idle Thoughts. And he’s bitching about sachertorte posting his Role PM and saying it’s AGAINST THE RULES!! even though he apparently didn’t read the post from Pleonast saying it was OK.
Well, that blows. I had a damn fine role in that game and got screwed by one vote.
If I had to guess, I’d say that Kat is scum. Her reasons for voting me (and not Idle, Rysto, or Zoggie, who “me tooed” me TWICE) were as weak as American beer.
If anyone wants to know what little I know, PM me and I’ll respond.
Yeah, sorry you missed the deadline. One and Only Wanderers wasn’t happen with his last-minute lynch either. It’s the nature of the game, and with everyone being able to make role claims, a hard cut off is the only practical way to do it.
What do you think of sach and Idle?
I was relatively sure that sach was town due to the lack of counterclaim, but the disappearance and outright refusal to give one tiny piece of info made him very suspicious. I wanted to be 100% sure. I figured that I was also breadcrumbing my role quite a bit in there, but there are either some really bad players in there or the scum saw an opening in the last couple of days because the vote was split up. I’m not sure about Idle, but my guess up until he claimed was Freemason. After he claimed and sach countered, I honestly didn’t know what to think. They BOTH started looking scummy to me. Sach’s “new info” was entirely too convenient after the claim. I still don’t understand why you wouldn’t get that out there immediately, in your original claim. I’ve always been a supporter of the idea that the town should have as much info as possible. Once you’ve already roleclaimed, what does it help to hold onto that piece of info?
I definitely prefer the majority rule of voting rather than the plurality. Of all the players in that game, it took five votes to lynch? Ouch.
Also…does anyone want to help me design/mod a Battlestar Galactica themed mafia game? I have a basic framework set up, but would like some help designing roles and balancing.
I went with plurality because there’s four Sides. It’s quite possible for the Town to be less than a majority and still not be game over. So plurality voting is needed to give the Town a chance in that case, otherwise it’s too easy for scum to stall the lynch.
I put the tie-vote equals no lynch rule to force an actual decision, plus I wanted to keep a fixed Day/Night schedule.
Edit: I can help with the balancing. Pm or email me what you have, if you like.
I will be happy to look at stuff too if you like. But I would most likely want to play in that game, so don’t send me anything you think might be game breaking. But I can help give general advice on balance etc.
Also, be sure to PM JSexton, Sach and probably MtgMan over on the other boards and ask for help. JSexton helped with the Firefly game a whole lot. Before he joined the design process it was an overly complex unbalanced mess. He turned it into the very tightly balanced game it is now; still managing to keep the foundation that Kat and I had worked on in place. It is the same game that we developed, but now it works (rather well I think, when the Mods aren’t bungling it up).
Sach was a big help to us as well and helped a lot in making sure our thoughts were clearly defined and that the loopholes were all tightened up.
MtgMan didn’t help with our game, but he really seems to know what he is doing when it comes to game mechanics.
Pleonast, if a player’s alignment is Cabal, what new ‘role’ information does the town get on the third Day reveal?
The Role will be revealed. The Cabal Side has only one Role, so it’ll be Cabalist.
The delayed Role reveal (as opposed to the delayed Side reveal) hurts scum more than it hurts Town.