role claim time.
I’m a vigilante
didn’t want to claim, but I have been forced to it.
In my experience, a vigilante is more helpful to the scum at this point in the game. And, if you target a townie by mistake, you die anyway. I’m wondering if this is a role we can spare at this point in the Day.
hmmm who else doesn’t like vigs around. Oh yeah, scum.
vote Pygmy Rugger
So much happens when you step away from the world of the Mafia.
Finally have a chance to vote.
vote One and Only Wanderers
OMGUS!
How about, people who like to see accountability for as large of a percentage of kills as possible, people who don’t want to see townies die, people that want less dead bodies laying around for the Necromancer to have his feast on, or people who think vigilantes are a pro-town role that actually hurt town?
Wow…you’re good. 
Vig is verifiable. Don’t lynch OAOW. Vig, kill OAOW if he’s lying.
At this point don’t have time to lynch anybody else. I hate myself for this, but:
Unvote Idle
Vote no lynch
Explanation for this is pending in my next post, but I wanted to get this out right away.
The problem with this is we don’t know if there’s even a Vig or not, and it’s a perfect front for a Vampire.
I have seen OAOW’s claim and I am OK with his lynch. Less bodies for the Necromancer to Zombify, and no accidental townie hits which would cause the loss of 2 townies. If we have a false claim here, then I’m all the more happy with it. This is what I meant by evaluating the claim and the claimant. Other roles that have claimed are less expendable if we are wrong. Vigilante would be a good false claim because there isn’t any reliable way for the town to test it.
Ok, I know that I’ve very against no lynch all day long, but the only thing worse than a no lynch is lynching a known Townie. Our discussion today has generated lots of information for us, and we won’t learn anything new by lynching a verifiable town role. It’s far too late to start a new bandwagon because we don’t have time to deal with the role claims.
Now, I know that technically there could be two Vigs and my advice would doom them both. I really don’t think that it’s likely that there would be two Vigs.
Pygmy Rugger, the Vig in this game doesn’t have to kill, so having a Vig can only help us.
Also, as Pleonast has said, there may be MORE than one Vig. In which case, the second Vig would kill the first Vig, then die himself for killing a townie. Ouch.
Damn board outage :mad:
It was a simulpost. I didn’t read it because I was too busy composing my own post. Look at the timestamps. And you say I’m oversensitive.
Also, I’m female.
Except for the part where if there is a Vig, the Vampire’s going to die.
The vigilante is a fairly powerful weapon, but can’t afford to kill every night because of the rebound effect. Vigs need to be very sure or risk dying.
Your claim (if true) is good news for any Vampire in the game, because the only ways we have of killing Vampires are lynching and your stake. That weapon is likely to get more valuable as time goes on.
On the other hand, the only way to verify a Vig claim is by investigation. That makes a Vig claim one that scum might be inclined to make, as to get that verification, a Seer, Witch or Detective (if the false claimer is a Werewolf) has to out themselves.
So where am I going with this?
I’m normally in favour of lynching someone - but I have a sneaking suspicion that we’re going to need every hand we’ve got to win this. That, plus the lost hour, means that for now I shall :-
Vote No Lynch
I mostly agree, but I would point out a few additional things:
- Rysto explicitly stated that he played one game earlier (M1, I think?). I’m not sure if he is aware of the BUTTVAASTIAST argument.
- While a third vote has to happen in the game, calling someone on the third vote does not.
- Someone (scum) aware of BUTTVAASTIAST would not bring it up, someone (scum) not aware of BUTTVAASTIAST would.
- I restate that this is rather weak, but there it is for consumption.
Regarding One And Only Wanderers roleclaim.
I agree with Rysto. If OAOW is lying then the real Vig can night kill him. This is only a problem if there are Two Vigs.
Regarding Pygmy Rugger’s note on vampires: I believe Vigs can night kill Vampires successfully.
unvote Rysto
Vote No Lynch
I hope that everybody can see that the moral of today’s story is Get your votes in ahead of time! We wasted plenty of time discussing useless hypotheticals and now we’re paralyzed at the last minute. I understand that some players can’t be on as much on the weekends, but there were only like 5 people posting this weekend and I don’t think that the other 17 were all that busy. If you do have to miss a weekend, we need you to come in and be caught up and posting by the end of Monday. Votes need to be in by Tuesday to avoid another debacle like today.
And of course there could be no Vig in which case, he is scum that has stumbled across a missing role.
We are unable to verify him directly by anything else than **OAOW ** saying he will kill one person tonight and seeing who he kills. Of course that runs the risk of him killing a townie and wiping out both roles.
The only other way to verify is for a Investigator role to check him out tonight, but that involves them claiming to prove/disprove his claim.
Uurgh!!
Nope, Vamps are not night-killable.
unvote OAOW
vote MadTheSwine
BEcause I think he’s being strategically quiet - popping in to unvote, but nothing else to say. This is mainly gut, and hurried.
What a time for the board to go down.
I don’t think scum would claim Vig since he would just be asking for a night kill instead.
Unvote OAOW
Vote Zoggie