Mafia: The Conspiracy

[Hockey_Monkey]

I’ve been contemplating it, and it does smell a little. My chief concern is the timing. Why in the world did you claim now Dot? The only new information is the Blessing of Idle Thoughts. I guess if **Idle ** does not ressurrect, then **Dotchan ** could be telling the truth, but if **Idle ** self-juju’ed the blessing will fail. If that’s the case, (as I think is highly likely), there is no way to verify this claim.

As for you verifying me…well that’s just wierd. All you’re saying is that there was one Vamp, and quite frankly you could have gotten that information from me. I don’t see how you think that verifies me, and reeks a little of you trying to gain my trust.

[Boozahol_Squid_P.I]

Maybe the mod can straighten this out for us:

Pleonast: If The Witchdoctor self-jujus, the Vampire converts him, and the Vicar blesses his corpse, what happens?

[CatInASuit]

@Diomedes

Maybe the mod can straighten this out for us:

Pleonast: If The Witchdoctor self-jujus, the Vampire converts him, and the Vicar blesses his corpse, what happens?

**Diomedes ** - show some patience. You get to find out tonight

[Hockey_Monkey]

I was just updating my spreadsheet on status/claims, and if all the claims are to be believed and the investigations of Blaster Master and **ShadowFacts ** were true Town and one is not the Omega Wolf, that leaves 3 blank spots.

HazelNutCoffee
DiggitCamara
Zoggie

We have 3 scum left to identify (If we have successfully eradicated the Cabal)

• the Alpha Wolf, Omega Wolf, and Vampire. **HazelNutCoffee ** said earlier in the game that her role was one that a scum would claim. **Dotchan’s ** role claim smells even worse now because not only did it come out of nowhere, but it conveniently leaves 3 “unknowns” and 3 “scum”. I’m not saying that I don’t think these 3 aren’t scum. I think at least one of them is. Just that it’s another reason **Dotchan ** could be scum and claiming now.

[ShadowFacts]

@Hockey Monkey

I’ve been contemplating it, and it does smell a little. My chief concern is the timing. Why in the world did you claim now Dot? The only new information is the Blessing of Idle Thoughts. I guess if **Idle ** does not ressurrect, then **Dotchan ** could be telling the truth, but if **Idle ** self-juju’ed the blessing will fail. If that’s the case, (as I think is highly likely), there is no way to verify this claim.

As for you verifying me…well that’s just wierd. All you’re saying is that there was one Vamp, and quite frankly you could have gotten that information from me. I don’t see how you think that verifies me, and reeks a little of you trying to gain my trust.

I agree with all of this (and I’m not just trying to gain your trust).

There is no reason I can think of for this claim right now, except to throw doubt on sachertorte’s read on Idle’s curse. Extremely suspicious.

[Pleonast]

@Diomedes

Pleonast: If The Witchdoctor self-jujus, the Vampire converts him, and the Vicar blesses his corpse, what happens?

Witchdoctors, Vampires, and Vicars already have this information. Ask them. ::evil grin::

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[Santo_Rugger]

I don’t understand how **dotchan **can verify Hockey’s claim, when, and I’ve said this before, the only information Hockey gave us that we can verify was that MHaye was a wolf, which both of them could have been by being wolves.

[Santo_Rugger]

@Pleonast

Witchdoctors, Vampires, and Vicars already have this information. Ask them. ::evil grin::

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FoS dotchan

[sachertorte]

@dotchan

Fortunately, my power can cancel those curses before they take effect, so I’ve sent in Idle Thoughts as my bless target toDay.

I don’t believe the dotchan claim. Her statement completely contradicts what I know about curses and the fate of Idle Thoughts.

Idle Thoughts has been cursed. Past Tense. It has already happened.
Idle Thoughts will rise again as a Vampire. Will, not may, will.

We really need a vig. Our lynch list is so friggin’ long. I don’t want to have to wait three weeks to lynch dotchan. FOS dotchan

[dotchan]

I claimed toDay because I didn’t think you guys would believe me toMorrow, either.

@Pleonast

@dotchan

Can my blessing cancel a curse made the Night before?

Yes! That is one of your Secret Powers. If you bless a cursed Player before they rise again, the curse is canceled.

@Pleonast

@dotchan

So, what does happen if I bless a self-jujuing Witchdoctor who has been cursed by a Vampire?

You know that your blessing will break a Vampire’s curse (Werewolf’s curse also). You know that your blessing fails on someone enchanted by a Witchdoctor.

The third piece, you don’t know: what happens when a Vampire curses someone enchanted by a Witchdoctor. You’ll have to ask a Witchdoctor or Vampire.

Have fun!

Pleonast is so mean, MEAN! shakes fist

[Hockey_Monkey]

So **Idle ** is going to come back to life, say **Dotchan ** broke the curse and he’s not a Vampire now. Great. :rolleyes:

[ShadowFacts]

@Hockey Monkey

So **Idle ** is going to come back to life, say **Dotchan ** broke the curse and he’s not a Vampire now. Great. :rolleyes:

Pretty frickin’ convenient, eh?

[Santo_Rugger]

@Pleonast

Witchdoctors, Vampires, and Vicars already have this information. Ask them. ::evil grin::

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@Pleonast

You know that your blessing will break a Vampire’s curse (Werewolf’s curse also). You know that your blessing fails on someone enchanted by a Witchdoctor.

The third piece, you don’t know: what happens when a Vampire curses someone enchanted by a Witchdoctor. You’ll have to ask a Witchdoctor or Vampire.

Have fun!

Bolding mine. One of these things is not like the other.

[HazelNutCoffee]

So, we’ll never be able to be SURE about Idle Thoughts, since only he and the Vampire know for sure what happens when a Vampire curse collides with a Witchdoctor’s juju. Unless he identifies the Vampire, I guess, which would suggest strongly that he’s still Town, but that would take time to confirm, and now the Witches can’t investigate and protect at the same time. Hm.

I suppose I should make a role-claim today. I’m at work now, but I’ll post something later this evening.

[Boozahol_Squid_P.I]

@dotchan

@Pleonast

Yes! That is one of your Secret Powers. If you bless a cursed Player before they rise again, the curse is canceled.

Pleonast is so mean, MEAN! shakes fist

I hate to metagame the mod’s posting style, but has anyone else seen Pleonast include exclamation marks in his posts, especially those related to rules queries. For all of the rules responses I’ve seen, he’s been very clipped in his answers.

Just sayin’…

[Hockey_Monkey]

I don’t feel like there is any need for further role claims today. We have our lynch candidate and I for one would not like to give the scum any more information than they already have to work with for toNight. Unless, you are scum, of course, then by all means speak up.

[CatInASuit]

@Hockey Monkey

I don’t feel like there is any need for further role claims today. We have our lynch candidate and I for one would not like to give the scum any more information than they already have to work with for toNight. Unless, you are scum, of course, then by all means speak up.

Is that my queue for saying something Eeeeeeeeevil!!!

Hey, if you want to jump someone to the front of the lynch line ahead of me, be my guest.

[ShadowFacts]

@Santo Rugger

Bolding mine. One of these things is not like the other.

Good eye, SR.

[DiggitCamara]

@Hockey Monkey

I don’t feel like there is any need for further role claims today. We have our lynch candidate and I for one would not like to give the scum any more information than they already have to work with for toNight. Unless, you are scum, of course, then by all means speak up.

I can’t really agree on that one. If Blaster Master is who I think he is, his information could be important.

[sachertorte]

@HazelNutCoffee

So, we’ll never be able to be SURE about Idle Thoughts, since only he and the Vampire know for sure what happens when a Vampire curse collides with a Witchdoctor’s juju.

While I didn’t know what happens when curse and enchanment collide, I DO know what the result of last night is: Idle Thoughts is a vampire. Pleonast’s PM to me is quite clear in that regard.