Because they aren’t playing the game. I don’t know what other conclusion to draw about it; it’s strategically useless so they’re either absent or malicious.
Johnny Bravo, the vote in 562 is me, not Prof. Pepperwinkle, who was #552. Does that mean we’re now at 7?
Corrected a mistake: he’s instead of they’re.
Damnit. I think I fixed it. If this one is wrong, I won’t make any other corrections and will just wait on the official count.
Texcat (7): [del]Chronos (356/392)[/del], Chronos (437), Sangfroid (477), Plumpudding (480), Septimus (486), Prof. Pepperwinkle (552), Jimmy Chitwood (562) Thing Fish (591)
Septimus (4): Johnny Bravo (460), [del]Texcat (461/577)[/del], DiggitCamara (490), Dante G (535), Texcat (589)
jsexton (3): [del]Mahaloth (319/434)[/del], Mahaloth (446), Cygnus42 (459), Bayard (471), [del]Prof. Pepperwinkle (479/512)[/del]
Dante G (2): [del]Mahaloth (214/319)[/del], [del]DiggitCamara (216/406)[/del], [del]Chronos (229/356))[/del], [del]Jimmy Chitwood (371/562)[/del], Biotop (476), Nonsuch (565)
Sangfroid (1): [del]Dante G (217/308)[/del], Precambrianmollusc (411)
Thing Fish (1): Sario (222)
Chronos (0): [del]Thing Fish (240/398)[/del], [del]Jsexton (280/346)[/del], [del]Dante G (308/399)[/del] [del]Septimus (315/391)[/del], [del]Sario (410/494)[/del]
Precambrianmollusc (0): [del]Plumpudding (254/400)[/del]
Sario (0): [del]Thing Fish (443/591)[/del]
Plumpudding (0): [del]Texcat (577/589)[/del]
SELF VOTES (storyteller rulechange announcement comes at #436)
!Septimus (391/449)
Chronos (392/437)
*!Biotop (394/403)
*Prof. Pepperwinkle (395/429)
*!Texcat (396/452)
*!Bayard (397/441)
Thing Fish (398/443)
!Dante G (399/451)
!Plumpudding (400/450)
*Cygnus42 (401/459)
DiggitCamara (406/490)
Mahaloth (434/446)
*did not have a vote in play prior to self vote
!did not move vote elsewhere during un-self-voting
Well, Sario voted a joke vote, which is really the same thing as no vote.
This is the sort of post I expect from scum who know that they led the mislynch on town. Suddenly he’s not sure himself. Read that as please don’t blame this on me and lynch me because of it.
Then Plum says that I am hysterical and have not provided any sort of actual defense. That’s because there is no actual case. There is only Plum’s diatribe, and everytime I try to respond to his lies and mischaracterizations, he just responds with more and worse.
When Biotop presented his original scheme, I thought it wouldn’t work because it gave scum the chance to identify all of the masons, and it had the potential of randomly killing our cop and doc. Then in the heat of trying to explain this, I forgot that the Alpha wolf was a godfather. I originally said and I still think it would have been a great scheme for midgame when our power roles and the masons were mostly known and there were fewer cats to herd.
I think pointing out the risks in the plan was a townie thing to do, and I would do it again. It was an immediate gut and townie reaction to the plan.
And Plum tries to shift the blame again. First onto me, then onto me everyone else. His entire case is lies and mischaracterization, what does he expect people to add?
Well Plumpudding, you are correct, somewhat. I have never specifically said MY personal reasons for voting for Septimus, aside from me stating that I agreed with Johnny Bravo’s analysis a couple pages back. After rereading the thread, the main post that does strike me as being a scummy post is where Septimus decides to point the FOS at those who have voted for him. Pointing back at others is not a strong defense and from what I have seen, he hasn’t offered off much else to defend himself.
That is my main reason for voting for him. I know that Texcat has a couple more votes compared to Septimus, but I feel that the votes for Tex are as a result of erratic posting and responses that come off as scummy. Much like the posts from myself earlier in the game that got suspicions tossed at me.
Could you explain why? As in your reasons for switching your vote?
That is always a possibility, and one that will always sit in the back of my mind. I still think *reasoned *votes TexCat will hold up under scrutiny, even if she’s town, as I can in no way understand how her play have been beneficial to town. Do you think she has been beneficial to town, other than to give us a lot to suspect her for?
And Mahaloth, what do you think about Jsexton, as far as I can tell, not having placed a vote yet?
My 2 cents, with a couple hours to go until end of Day.
Re-reading the recent several pages, focusing on Texcat & septimus, since they are the current leaders -
I don’t get a good scum feeling from Texcat - I think a lot of the case against her is based on her replies to some of the early self-voting schemes. While it’s useful to discuss the implications of all that - there were a few different proposed plans in the air, and trying to discuss the pluses and minuses of them was pretty reasonable. At the time, it was definitely tricky to figure out the implications of the options being proposed (I hope that makes sense…) I could be wrong, and it’s a wolf move trying to lead the town into a voting scheme that benefits the wolves more. I don’t think she has anything wolfish on the board, after the voting scheme died out though.
For septimus - I get a slightly more scummy vibe. Both in being pretty defensive at being voted, and the statement in post #486 (sorry, not sure how to link, or quote properly):
Saying effectively ‘I can’t be scum, I play differently as scum’ - while earlier saying that good players like Chronos play the same as town and scum (#315).
Also, on review, kinda defending ** Dante G** way back in post #259, while Dante was an early suspect - seems scummy in retrospect.
So, of the two, I see septimus as a bit more wolfish. And…it’s taken me 40 minutes to write this. I’ll consider moving my vote over to septimus, but now I’m worried about causing a tie.
Time to post and update the thread…
I also do not understand Precambrianmollusc vote for Sangfroid, which absent reasoning seems just there the fill the need for a “cover-my-ass” blue post.
Oh, please, this is scummy as hell. I haven’t given town anything to suspect me for. You have. The entire case on me is hot air. You know it, and you are backpedaling and already looking for excuses for your vote. Scummy, scummy, and more scummy.
**unvote Septimus
vote Plumpudding
**
Voting for whoever I find the scummiest. I will be around before EOD and will move back to Septimus if town comes to their senses. But would prefer it if town came to their senses and voted Plum.
No, I’m quite sure of myself, as I’m keeping my vote on you. I can’t say I know, because I don’t.
Could you go back and answer all my questions please? If you’re actually town, could you calm down, go back and read what I’ve said and write a level-headed response?
When it is a lot less beneficial to use for town. Lot’s of people repeatedly provided you with reasons for why it would be beneficial to town to use it as early as possible, why it isn’t such a big deal to reveal masons in such a scheme and why a miniscule chance for our power-roles to be randomly NK’d does not negate any of that.
Pointing out risks? In the end the plan was basically a win for town, if everyone would have followed it. You even rode underneath the whole thing, which to me(I may be reading too much into this one, but I’m not discounting it.) made it look like you were trying to avoid more heat.
Haha, wow. Yeah, I’m not blaming your situation on anyone other than yourself and I never have. I just like to know WHY people place votes, since their **SILENCE **makes it harder for all of us to determine what side they’re on, regardless of the vote.
Unvote Dante G.
Vote septimus
Time to put my money where my mouth is, I guess. I still think Dante G is indicated by his posts as scum. But I want my vote to matter.
I think it’s a bit late to get votes going on Plum - I’d rather see votes stay on septimus for today. I do still think JSexton is vote-worthy, but that vote is pretty meaningless right now.
A poster that early on came with very little substance, then began opposing a plan that after some work became more or less guaranteed to work, while avoiding to answer questions for several pages, then defending herself with histrionics and direct smudging, now trying to shift the blame over to her most vocal voter… that is scummy behaviour. Why would any town behave like that?
Talk to me about this. I think we’re in the same boat - I’ve been going back and forth here, and I also don’t want to effectively waste a vote. I think not too long ago you thought TexCat was more likely than septimus to be scum, no?
Sorry about my poor post then. My apologies. I guess absent an official vote count we are going to have to do our best with the unofficial tallies.
No apologies needed, its good for Town to call out those that may be trying to skate by.
Physician, heal thyself! I’m gonna be honest, TexCat’s defense is starting to look more and more Towny (and this after I said a couple pages ago that the initial case is more important than the response to it, if anyone’s tracking hypocrisies) in the face of what seems to me to be pretty unreasonable doggedness on your part. I’m starting to feel like I fucked up. I just don’t have a good case against septimus, either.
Unvote Texcat
Vote Dario G for now.
Anybody want to come with me on that one, or convince me in a different direction?
Er, that’s Vote Dante G
It’s really rude of you guys to have names that I don’t remember correctly