And now we are five, but at least it’s four-to-one.
Alas, poor Jimmy - I think continuing the tradition of killing the most helpful / vocal.
I’ll be back a bit later, to start posting thoughts on who our remaining wolf is.
Am I correct in thinking that since it’s 4-1 town now, we have two shots at it? If we guess wrong this Day, we’ll have one more Day at 2-1 - right?
Looking way back at the rules on the first page, it looks like Town would have to mis-lynch twice to lose. So, despite the rough start to this game, I like our chances now…
Checking in.
Sorry to lose you, Jimmy. I thought for sure the Prof was the top pick.
Now rechecking the interactions of the last of us.
Actually I was hoping it would be me instead of Jimmy. He’s better at detailed analysis and has the experience (which is why I thought he’d be picked).
Huh. Didn’t expect that.
Finish the job, Town!
From my own opinions on who is who, and why JC got knocked off
JC and Cygnus were the last remaining likely town,
Sangfroid and Prof P slightly less likely town
leaving Nonsuch and myself in the possible pool.
Both Cygnus and Prof P had said they were probably going to vote for me today, so our wolf would most likely want to leave those alone as they said they were planning on voting for town (me), leaving JC as the likely night kill.
Of course , not much can be read into speculations as to if the wolf reacted to ProfP or Cygnus intentions. The wolf could have just as easily killed one of them to smudge me.
Still in the interim
vote Nonsuch
Last of the likely wolves pool
also
back in post 1320 I made this comment
"Interestingly nonsuch is voicing suspicion at me, but not voting, for reasons that JB had a much longer interaction with TF over, yet has JB at the bottom of their list of scum. "
If we remember the JB/TF interactions it was over thingfish saying they were voting to protect septimus. I had some suspicion ( hell I think I voted for TF then) but JB carried on the poking , Nonsuch attacked me for my bad logic, yet gives a pass to JB and has them at the bottom of likely wolf list
Also in post 510 we have JSexton urging Nonsuch to get a vote out – experienced wolf helping the junior wolf?
Yes, it does seem most likely to be either PMC or Nonsuch. I’m going back over the last Week looking for evidence on either side.
Damn. So long, Jimmy.
OK folks, one more wolf to go. Let’s make the world safe for innocent Ceciltownies!
vote Precambrianmollusc
PMC, note that Jimmy Chitwood also said he would vote to lynch you toDay. That doesn’t agree with your supposition that that’s why he was lynched, but it seems to me to be that your most recent argument is just the kind of slight distortion that a Wolf would do. You’re still at the top of the lynch list.
post 1622 and 1623 right after final vote and just before the day ended were You and Cygnus
Post 1612. Bolding mine.
Going back over the board, I find Bayard’s post 1009. With the exception of TexCat and Precambrianmollusc, all his other suspects turned up town. I’m guessing some of the more experienced players would have picked up on this if they hadn’t died first.
DG JB and Sario were wolf not town , or am I parsing your comment badly?
Gack! Yes, Wolf, not town. Sorry.
So my read on nonesuch, I ended up including some of my interactions with NS and confirmed wolves
NS input gets pretty thin on the ground, but they did say they had some real life issues, for which I can sympathize, certainly not going to accuse NS of being a lurking wolf.
In summary , still there on the wolf reading , Nonsuch had a similar line of attack on me as , “it looks scummy”
119 strategy on tied votes confusing
139 I say in response to NS the tie mechanism is worth discussing and waffle on
149 responds and says the are new to the game and didn’t think there was a moneyball approach. Agrees with Jsexton saysing hsouldnt look for rule exploits
152 Chronis responds to moneyball
155 plum responds to moneyball comment
167 Jsexton see through me Precambrianmollusc contains S-C-U-M! He also contains M-I-L-L-E-R, though, so that’s probably just a false positive. Maybe his M-A-S-O-N buddy can confirm that for us. Yikes, he’s also the D-O-C and the C-O-P! This role is ridiculously overpowered.
178 Says to Chronos lynch the lurker is not bad for town even if the lurker is town
182 It is hot in portland
186 DC agrees with Jsex that perfect info is a give away, FWIW I pointed this out as well
201 Diggit C goes in with This is one of the scummiest posts I have ever seen (TIOOTSPIHES)
205 Fluff on the tipping hand riffs being made
213 Fluff on what recipies the scum are exchanging
219 Says DanteG breaks out the pack as leader, but post His post was such a tell that I can’t help thinking he’s probably town —if scum gave themselves away that quick, this game would be pretty short.
228 Comments that engineering a tie is like hearding cats - I agree
253 Sangfroid commenst on Nonsuch
267 Nonsuch questions Plumpuddings vote or not vote on me
272 Jsexton comemnst of Plumpuds mangled thinking
282 Nonsuch beffuddle by plum, I cant disagree, doenst think the engineering a tie will work
287 continues
292 reads Jsextons case on Chronos, thinsk too complex? Doesn’t vote chronos but says chronos is a super play and could be pulling a jedi mind trick
347 deosnt want to play the game chronso and biotop explained - I agree
417 agrees with malhoth on the game mechanics - not liking the plan
470 explains been quiet, says will vote later
510 Jesexton to nonsuch I’m never a fan of posts that only apologize for not posting. We’re approaching end of day, and I don’t recall anything of substance from you. Why do you think is town? who do you think is scum?
565 long post Trusts Bio and Chronos, stinkeye on Plum, Septimus, DanteG and Jsexton, votes DanteG because it’s a bandwaggon
575 Clarifies post numbers in case/ssupicion of PlumP
Day 2
740 interesting bit half way down - in 575 NS says Danteg had a bandwaggon, yet in 740 says they were voting for who they thought was most scummy. Inconsistant
741 gets on the Texcat lynch thing
743-744 back and forth with Bio
751 Repsonds to my question of Malahoth vote for Jsecton saying they were suspicious of jSexton
752 Jsexton thinsg Sangfroids post smacks of perfect information
780 Thingfish agrees with nonsuch (nonsuch thinks plum not that scummy)
784 wants to circle back to my post on Thingfish protecting Septimus, says my attemt to cast suspicuon seams forced
786 I expalain “his statement of protecting Septimus really jumped out to me as smacking of too much knowledge and retroactively applying reasoning for his vote”
790 Thinks I am undercutting ThingFish
793 Jsexton takes issue with my logic
807 I clarify again what I found odd about TFs comment
810 NS clairfies voting for Texcat because wolves were saving Texcat in the septimus clusterfuck
812 asks for TF clairfication
863 discussion of new tiebreak
866 discussion of new tiebreak
900 continues with Texcat being saved case, mentiosn itmay be due to saving Jsexton, but why not texcat
918 supplies vote count
920 I vote sangfroid
922 Says dante has checked out
925 corrects vote count
Day 3
980 says makes sense for wolves to kill experienced players
1001 My post suggesting we examin the claim more closely and float the idea of keeping Jsexton in the bag to keep conversation going today and if bayard tuned up dead we would know he was the seer, highlight downside that it leaves Jsexton alive
1010 A wolf (DC) thinks it is a scummy idea and continues for several posts
1015 Jsexton calls an end to discussion
1022 discusses case on texcat
1029 responing to ProfP on tie break
1033 I discuss my skepticism that TEXcat is the alpha, state id vote for Diggit tomorrow
Day 4
1110 Corrects Storey on the day number
1117 Agrees with TF case on Plum, hedges with “I think he was town”
1120 My brilliant spotted flaw that Plum had cut and pasted his roled claim from Storeys role claim - except it wasn’t
1129 DC votes for me for one of the scummiest ideas ever
1131 Some support for me from TF
1132 And from JC who then folows up with a vote on DC
1139 Cygnus also disagrees with DC
1159 Biotops run down on me
1160 nonsuch brings up my comment of TF defending septimus, continues with the case
1172 votes for me beacause, SCUMDAR! Or maybe just to see if I get any more traction (already have one from DC)
1176 Thanks biotp
1185 Prof P looks at my posts
1208 Teccat has a vote count 3 or sario (Prof, bio and cyg) 2 on me (DC and NS) two on plum (TF JB)
1217 I vote DC along with JC
1220 I stay on DC and not move to sario as I think DC more likely wolf
1253 Day end with sario lynched. God knows what wolves were up to
1281 Dawn day 5
1284 I continue case against DC
1285 Wolf JB joins me
1294 I Highlight Plu, DC, NS AND JB are the best pool to go hunting in
1312 NonSuch posts!leaning twon on TF Bio, ProfP and Cygnus, the rest of us leaning scum
also back on my case has JB twoards bottom of tehir list of possible scum
1322 my post analysis of JB and JC
1327-1330 me and bio back and forth on questioning bayard and leaving a wolf alive
1386 NS votes Plum, says DC botes make sense
1410 we are 4 and 4 on DC and Plum
1444 ends with Plum being lynched
1468 Start of day 6
1473 I vote DC, I have little imagination
1479 So does JB
1479 DC votes JB
1480 Nonsuch says will vote DC or me
1494 I post NS JC DC as likely wolves - admittedly though elimination rather than dedcution
1503 Nonsuch says they will reread the game
1555 nonsuch votes for a tie between DC and JB , two wolves, votes DC
1588 Dawn day 7
1605 JC reread on nonsuch
1608 JB votes for me ( he has 3 votes on him)
1616 NS votes for me
1628 JB Lynched
1659 And here we are
I referenced that **Bayard **post a little while back too. Almost prescient, very Seer-like.
I still am leaning to PCM as that final wolf, but I want to investigate a bit more. If he is the wolf, he’s been doing a good job of setting himself up to look somewhat less guilty.
He has a couple posts I’ve seen so far, such as #1494:
Pointing to two fellow wolves (now confirmed) would be a bold move, but maybe just what is needed to try to deflect suspicion. Those names weren’t completely out-of-the-blue, though - both Diggit and JB were gaining in suspicion by that point.
My earlier read through from the beginning gave me a town lean on Nonsuch. I think it’d take something pretty significant to overcome that for this Day.
I’ll be posting more rationale for this vote later this weekend, but for now:
Vote Precambrianmollusc.
Nonsuch’s biggest scum tells appear to me to be some serious lurking and late votes.
And voting for me for the same opportunistic reasons as Diggit Camera
Also , JSexton was specific in urging Nonsuch to get a vote out, why would scum urge a town to get a vote out, non-voting townies are often more likely to get lynched for lurking, to me this is a clear message to nonesuch to get a vote on record to avoid suspicion.
Looking back at Nonsuch, they were also very careful, the posts, in a similar vein to Diggit C , were mostly on game mechanics type things, stuff that people often agree with, but not controversial. When it came to actual accusations and case building, it was often using someone else’s case, or carefully phrased " I think X is scummy, but maybe not"
One further point to reiterate, Nonsuch had me fingered as scum because of my questioning of Thingfish over the "I protected Septimus " statement. Johnny B (Of the lupine persuasion) also had a long exchange with ThingFish over that same thing, yet Nonsuch didn’t say a word, and put Johnny B very low on their list of possible scum.
Um, yeah, Bravo did have a “long exchange” with Thing Fish over the “Anatomy of a Massive Clusterfuck” post, because Thing Fish (more or less) accused him of making a scummy vote. What would you expect? Any player, Town or Wolf, would have stepped up to justify their vote, and so I found nothing especially shifty about it. But he did NOT immediately denounce Thing Fish as scum. The exchange fizzled out to little effect, and Bravo ended up claiming to find nothing suspicious in Thing Fish’s argument.
Obviously, Bravo’s protestations and subsequent vote (for Dante G, same as Thing Fish’s) seem like a wolf tell in retrospect — but they certainly didn’t at the time, since no one voted him or even really remarked on it.
You, on the other hand, were the one who immediately voted Thing Fish based on an extremely spurious conclusion that Thing Fish was betraying perfect knowledge of Septimus’ townhood in his Day 1 vote, when he was doing no such thing. You subsequently changed your vote, either because you came to your senses or you realized you’d failed to start a bandwagon against Thing Fish.
OK, heading out for the evening. More later.