MAFIA: The Road to Canterbury - Game Thread

I’ll be brief here, since the Dope seems to be bouncing up and down for me this morning, and I’m having one of those days at work.

I am the Prioress.

I protected myself last Night because **Hal **had made it pretty clear who he was going to target. I was hoping to be able to use my power in a more obviously beneficial way, but I figured it was better to self-preserve than to simply die.

More later, job and hamsters willing.

I’m not voting for Suburban Plankton. Not yet anyway. I need to do a lot more research before I just jump on the bandwagon. In fact, I need to do some looking back at just toDay to figure out how, exactly, this bandwagon started.
I don’t know if Suburban Plankton is scum. I don’t know if he’s not scum either. He’s kinda been off my radar this whole game. And looking at the list which Stanislaus just posted, he’s been off everyone’s! Look at it. Day 1 through 4 and not a single Day ends with a vote for Suburban. Hell, there may not have been a single vote for him cast this entire game!
Now, suddenly, there’s a 5-0 race to get him lynched?
I’m not ready to call it that easily.

i’m going to go over the rules to see how scum might protect one of its own. in the meantime

Unvote Suburban Plankton

if he really is scum, Hal would be too and lying about trying to kill Burby.

NETA: if SP is town, it still doesn’t answer why there wasn’t a scum kill. are they doing it on purpose? is their strategy to make town use our powers and clean up after?

For those questioning my Survivor vs. Win-Stealer status, I know this is “malevolent 3rd party wouldn’t do that”, but I came across something. I was just doing a re-read of the past two Days, and realized something in my role-claim post:

If I were a win-stealer, wouldn’t I be afraid of the Potion of True Sight being used, especially since I’m a pretty damn good choice for its use? It would have been a simple matter for me to remove those lines, but I C&P’d my role exactly as it stood.

Just putting it out there…

It’s not so cut and dried. A vigilante still wins with town, and is always acting in town’s best interest. Hal is an enormous unknown to us. Maybe he has an exclusive win condition. Maybe he’s scum-aligned. Maybe he changes his mind and decides to win with scum. We don’t know.

I don’t get how you can draw a parallel between “vig” and whatever Hal is, and act like they’re entirely equivalent.

I’ve already said I’m willing to let him make one of those kills, and I’m willing to think about letting him ride out the game if he hits scum. But we as a group need to discuss this stuff. He very well might not be entirely on the level.

On a different note: Suburban Plankton, did you hint anywhere about your power?

Oof, Hal, that’s a really scummy thing to post.

Suburban has claimed prioress? Interesting.

Because I’m not. I’m drawing a parallel between vig and a third party role with access to kills. If Hal is not third party, then no, they are not equivalent.

I think it’s exceedingly unlikely they skipped a night kill. Story’s color hints that something very unusual happened in the interaction of powers.

We’re mostly certain of Mosier is the Seraph. This explains the no-poison-death.

Suburban claims he protected himself, and Hal claims he attacked Suburban. They’d both have to be scum for this to be a ruse. And, the jig will be up if either dies, so for now we can dismiss this, too.

I can’t check the rules easily on my phone, but I think a protection only saves against one attempted kill. So scum didn’t attack Suburban. If the rules say otherwise, they could have, but why would they when Hal has been very clear on his intent?

Nobody else died. Nobody else has claimed anything related to this mess. So… where did the scum kill go?

One possibility: Hal Bristol is scum, and used a Storyteller-provided cover role. His “special” kill was in fact a regular scum kill, and failed against Suburban’s self-protect.

This seems plausible to me, and accounts for all variables. Any mistakes in my reasoning?

???

If I were afraid of being investigated, I would have edited my PM so as to not put the idea in anyone’s head. Saying that is “really scummy”?

Pointing it out is. “Hey guys, look over here at this thing I did which a scum person would totally not do and I did it so clearly I’m not scum. Look, look, look at it!”

Exceptionally unlikely (for many reasons) possibility, but a possibility nonetheless: Plankton isn’t scum, and scum also took a shot at him last night.

And god dammit, if you’re going to smudge me, at least get my name right. :slight_smile:

That’s definitely a possibility. I think protections only defend against a single kill attempt, but if I’m wrong, that’s certainly a possibility, though unlikely.

Sorry about your name. At least it’s not really a smudge. I’ve definitely accused you of being scum. :smiley:

Heh, all is forgiven, then.

As to my being scum, well, hopefully I make it to toNight and I can try and write actual scum out of the story. Change these tales up a bit…maybe give them a nice sci-fi flair or something. :slight_smile:

It won’t convince everyone that I’m not a win-stealer, but since my PM is clear in that the color of the kill will not be anything scum-tool-based, hopefully it’ll remove my being scum from the table.

Oooo…“Geoffrey Chaucer’s Evil Dead”…I like it!

This entire argument is ridiculous. The more candidates, the easier it is for scum to drive the truck.

Of course, we know that the Canon claimed to have used the Restorative, don’t we? So you’d have no reason to believe that the True Sight is even in play. Unless you DO have reason to believe that, and are hiding something. Besides, you CLAIM to have done a simple C&P job. How do we know that’s true?

The Potion of True Sight is a Canon ability. The Canon (sinjin) was killed on Night 2, and we were told that he used his Power. If he chose the Potion rather than the Restorative, and used it on Night 2, then it would have still been in effect last Night. Of course, two of our three Investigators used their powers on Night 1, but it’s possible that the Reeve could have ‘successfully’ investigated you last Night.

*if *the Canon chose the Potion
and *if *he used it on the (unknown) Reeve
and *if *the Reeve is Town

That’s a lot of ‘ifs’.

I suppose that it was possible given our knowledge yesterDay that **gnarlycharlie **(the Friar) could have been the Seraph, so he could have investigated you with the beneft of the Potion, but that still didn’t make it a likely scenario.

Also, an Investigator wouldn’t, as far as I can tell, know that they had been administered the Potion, so they might not want to risk ‘wasting’ their power on an investigation of you, since it would be likely that it would return a ‘false’ result.

So I don’t think you were in a lot of danger of being ‘found out’ by the Potion of True Sight. Yes, it was a risk, but not a very big one.

Not intentionally.

Re-read the rules. The line about protection from the prioress is :

Once per game, you may target a player of your choice at Night (or target yourself). If this player is attacked, the attack will fail. Only poison (see Scum Tools) can circumvent this protection, though you yourself can always be blocked.

So it looks like the protection is absolute. To be clear: Storyteller, will a protection defend against multiple attacks?

For the record, I don’t think Hal is Scum. Scum wouldn’t go to that much effort to construct such an elaborate false claim. And while I think that ‘flipping’ a Townie to 3rd-Party is plausible, I don’t think doing the same for a Scum is remotely likely, because but would be extremely unfair to the other Scum. But whether Hal is a (relatively) benign Third Party, or a PFK, is another question. Unfortunately for Hal, I don’t think there’s any way for him to prove it to us one way or the other, meaning that we need to get rid of him sooner or later.
One thing that Hal mentioned when he claimed struck me, though

I can’t help but think of **Stanislaus **when reading this. He was investigated twice on Night 1 and came up Town. There were initially a couple of “what if’s…” with regard to his alignment, but once fubbleskag turned up Town and MHaye told us that the Cloak of Lies was not in use, I think we’ve all pretty penciled in Stanislaus as Town.

I’m wondering why two different people investigated Stanislaus in Night 1. He must have done something to make himself a juicy target. Perhaps that wasn’t an accident. Perhaps he knew that an investigation of him would return ‘Town’.
If this comes across as a blatant smudge on Stanislaus, that’s probably because it kind of is…but not really. There’s nothing I can point to right now that paints Stanislaus as “likely Scum”, but that’s in large part because I haven’t really been looking at him at all since his Day 2 double-‘confirmation’. It’s nothing more than a “bad feeling” at this point, but since my neck is on the block right now this isn’t the time to keep my thoughts to myself.