[QUOTE=Hal Briston]
One person who comes out of that with increased credibility (at least in my eyes) is sachertorte. Going back to M3, it was noted that known scum had twice “suspected” the same player on their “suspicion” lists, and in both cases, that player appeared in the third position on the list. That third position is a classic psychological hiding spot (it doesn’t even have to be done consciously).
If you look at the scum board in M4, there was active discussion about creating these lists, but special mention was made not to put fellow scum in the third slot. I’d say there is an excellent chance that same strategy carried over here, thus acquitting sachertorte.
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I dunno, but methinks this whole placement and order of votes is starting to get a bit out there. I have no doubt that given enough patterns that a viable one can be established and found over time given human nature and all that
but the thing is, you and others are talking about it and all of putting it out there with how it works. So what makes you think that any scum (in this game and after) will follow and hold true to these theories? It just seems like it’s a reach.
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]
Sure,the mistake I conceded was calling the FOS that CJ placed on me(or hinted at) a vote,in my eyes it is the same thing,I just misworded my post.CJ’s post was still a scum tell,no matter how boneheaded my response to it was.
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Spacebar not working there? 
Yeah, that’s my thoughts a bit. Like I said earlier when people were talking about the difference between “suspicion” and “FOS”, I see things being two ways. Saying who you’re suspicious of and voting for them (often based on those suspicions–so really they go hand in hand as one usually leads to the other in most cases).
[QUOTE=NAF1138]
BLASTER CAN YOU POKE MONKEY, AND MAYBE GET US A SUB IF HE DOESN’T RESPOND?
I would say give him 24 hours? Seems fair to me.
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24 hours? I’d say that was being very generous. MM hasn’t said a thing in here since the start-middle of Day Two.
[QUOTE=Captain Klutz]
Interesting. While it’s highly likely that the Crusader killed storyteller, I suppose that DiggitCamara [ver. 2] is not allowed to tell us why DiggitCamara [ver. 1] targetted storyteller (or even if he did).
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Aside from being a way to seemingly cheat a bit, another flaw here is “what if Auto now Diggit is scum?” I’m sure, if he could answer those questions, the answers would be remarkably different depending on what team he was playing for.
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey]
Regarding all the “Homework posts”. Personally, I don’t find these to be helpful in the least. They don’t hold any substance and for me contribute to the fluffiness of the thread. I’ve skipped right on over all of them, because a player that summarizes their own posts can paint them in any way they want. If you guys are going to be relying on these summaries there is no help for the town. I have to question why **sachertorte ** would want everyone wasting their time reading and summarizing their own posts rather than analyzing the posts of the other players.
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Huh. Go figure.
While I questioned it myself, I certainly don’t see what it hurts or what anyone has to lose with it. But seriously? Questioning someone who just asks everyone to do something based on a spreadsheet? As long as I’ve played this game, people have done a summeration of other’s posts to help them get a better understanding with them all there in one place, especially dead players.
I dunno, I can only speak for myself, but like you said, if anyone wants to do it, they could just look it up themselves…so in EITHER case, the info is there and public for those who want it. Therefore each person doing it doesn’t give anything away that couldn’t already be found.
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]
I found it helpful doing my own, if for no other reason than to review the thread and refresh my memory as to who I found suspicious before and why. I haven’t really looked at the others’ yet, but I agree that if there are no links it’s not very helpful. No one is going to represent their own posts completely objectively.
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Speaking as one of those who didn’t embed links to the posts, this WOULD be and take too long, at least for me whose computer is often as slow as molasses. The posts are all there. They are named. If anyone wishes to go back and take a look at a specific one, it will take considerably less time to look for and over that one post then it will for me to link to them. Sorry if you think it’s/I’m not being helpful in that regard or that mine (and other’s like it) is thus pointless, but when you’re on a computer as slow as this one, the frustration and time one saves is more than worth it.
Anyway, to sum up: I’m suspicious of Hockey Monkey now. At least she’s certainly raised her head on my radar. It just seems, even though Queuing and FCOD agreed with her, that she’s subtly showing casting of suspicion by question why sach would ask for everyone to do that. This boggles my mind since, as I said above, the info is all already out there. What more could someone gain from it? And this is coming from someone who had some pretty strong suspicions of sach himself for a long time. My two cents? I just don’t see it. And while I don’t regard you as suspicious for not wanting to do a list, I do for seemingly coloring those who have asked for it or think it would help as shadylike.
Regarding Zeriel/NAF I have no idea what to think there. I’ve had early suspicions of NAF on Day One and say it here and there but it’s since faded. Zeriel on the other hand, I haven’t really noticed much, although it’s been pointed out he’s casted death blows in the past. I’ve tried rereading his posts but nothing really jumps out at me.
Mal isn’t completely clear either in my book; I had just noticed/was tripped by someone more so than him at the end of Day Two.
But no matter how I look at it, there is only one person who, not only have I been suspicious of from Day One but who has always stayed at the top of the list and nay, even has done nothing but keep growing more and more suspicious as time went by as seen in many, many, many of my other posts (which I just did a recap of in post 1500. See? Not entirely unhelpful having to do it after all).
So for all of those past stated and explained reasons, I’m going to cast a vote for Pleonast