Well, in two Day/Night Cycles Town has now lost 3 of 5 power roles and not yet found a Wolf. I’d say Team Hairy has taken a solid lead in the early going.
Welcome Mahaloth! I find your death thoroughly unsurprising; you seemed townie, and you were doing some solid scum hunting. Wolves can’t have that now, can they? 
Well, the most important power role is still at large, at least.
Not anymore!
First off, called it on JSexton. Second off, Bayard: good call on your investigations, but in the future it’s generally better to claim near the end of the day. Now, no scum hunting will happen as people lay their votes on JSexton’s door and head off to other activities.
Not sure how I feel about Bayard claiming in the game with his PM’s to the MOD as proof. In games I’ve played before it was pretty frowned upon. It takes the fun out of the guessing and deducing. But then again, its already been established that the Dopers play a slightly different game here so …
On the one hand, PMs aren’t all that hard to fake (especially if you have teammates to coach you on it). And on the other, it’s tough to false-claim a role that’s known to be in the game in the first place, since an eventual counter-claim is certain. So I don’t think it really matters much to allow C&Ping PMs.
I do agree, though, that while this might have been the right Day to come forward (conventional wisdom around here is for the detective to claim after three Town or one Scum), it wasn’t yet the right day. Get at least half of the Day out there, and you’ll have that much more discussion, and more that can be analyzed in light of the new information.
Oh, and Diggit is wrong in 998, too: The First Mason still has the same power e always had, that of confirmability. It’s now possible for a single Scum to counterclaim em, but that’s exceedingly unwise unless it gets right down to the wire, since even if Town took the liar’s word for it, e’d still be killed the next Day.
Nope. Alas, I am gone! Good for the scum team for getting me and Chronos.
It’s acceptable here.
And I KNEW Jsexton was scum! I have played with him before and I swear it hasn’t been that long since he played here.
I think he has played in a game I made, actually.
Are you suggesting that how long he’s been out of practice was a Scum lie? It seems a peculiar thing to lie about, to me: It wouldn’t be hard to disprove (just link to the thread), and what’s the great advantage, anyway?
No, I wasn’t suggesting that at all.
It was just a side-point.
I’ve seen the colors done in the narratives, pretty much the same colors you mentioned. Though not all the time, just in describing the kill.
I don’t think it would be problematic at all for you to do both. I don’t expect that you would need to post too often during the Day, and that’s the only time when vote tracking matters. Plus, while it’s not strictly adhered to, most people vote as a separate paragraph. So you could just make that a strict rule.
Combine that with maybe not using bold in your announcements, and I don’t think you’d need to do anything else.
Forbidding the posting of mod PMs is in fact sometimes done. Or, at least, it was back when I was still watching all the time. If you wish to do that, I don’t think anyone would object.
I think they’d be more likely to object if you wind up making the Days too short. Long days are one of the main reasons I only played once. It was simultaneously too easy to forget about the game when I could play it, and think about it when I wasn’t able to play.
Really, Diggit, attacking precambrian for having a bad idea? Yes, he’s wrong, and it’s fine to point that out, but that doesn’t make him Scum. It just makes him a newbie. Which we already knew.
It might be instructive to look back at old games and see some of the mistakes we veterans made back then.
Bayard is lucky that TexCat didn’t get lynched (or unlucky if TexCat is the alpha wolf; I will laugh so hard if TexCat is the alpha wolf. For the record, I don’t think she is, but it would be funny if she were).
Personally, I think investigating TexCat was a mistake. There are two ways to figure out someones alignment, investigation and lynch. TexCat was on the lynch shortlist, might as well let TexCat’s alignment be found out by lynch and find someone else’s alignment by investigation. There were 17 other players to choose from on Night One! Why choose the one that was likely to die on Day Two?!
I don’t know why, but this game got boring pretty fast – even before Bayard’s claim. 
I do wonder if scum are just lucky to have killed two masons since they were experienced players. I remember moderating a game where scum killed the detective the first night simply because they wanted to kill a good player. They even discussed the fact that they should think about who might be the detective, but decided not to bother. Sadness ensued.
I found it easier to ID JSexton as probable wolf based on history. Since he has played before it is easier to see his posts as less than genuine. With all the new players, I’m pretty much at a loss. I can’t tell if a post is disingenuous or simply someone who genuinely doesn’t know what is going on.
I also assume that Bayard was overvaluing a Wolf result and undervaluing a Town result. Very Townie, very common behavior. Given Wolf propensity for killing experienced players, I’d guess that Bayard was not in danger of being night killed, though I don’t remember who is left that is experienced.
I’ve never been the investigator, so I can’t really say how crazy the pressure to claim is though. I imagine the pressure is high, especially with so many dead masons, so Bayard’s early claim is understandable.
If I recall, precambrian’s idea has been proposed before. It falls under the, ‘nice idea, will never happen’ category. Even if it makes sense to defer a wolf lynch to the next day, players simply can’t bring themselves to do it. Ever. Prior to JSexton dissembling, the idea had merit, but it would have never come to pass.
I think the Days are too long for this particular group of players. With a predominantly new cast of characters, they’re still feeling out how to play the game. Uncertainty breeds second-guessed posts and deleted drafts, which means they’re staying silent where you or I would be blathering on (earning ourselves a “lynch the loud” death, probably :D). When the end of the Day rolls around, they find themselves with a multitude of unexpressed thoughts, and that’s when we’ve seen flurries of activity and votes.
Thanks for all the tips everyone. I think I’ve got my game theme idea all set and I’ll be ready to start sign ups when this current game is over.
Jsexton jumped on Chronos for his idea at the beginning. While I agree that we should just play the game, I hardly saw what Chronos did as untownie or worth lynching.
Sexton was probably genuine in all his dislike of the plan, but his reaction is what turned me onto him as scum.
Awesome. Sign me up!
Absolutely. I would strongly push in any future games that we go to 4 days, 1 night. If people are bothered by that for some reason…maybe 2 nights. I think most night actions come in quickly, though.
It had been asserted, without proof, that long days are Pro-Town. I think the notion dates back to a game where the moderator asked if people wanted to extend the Day because of some sort of lack of consensus or general fuck-up and all the scum felt they had to vote for an extended day to look more townie. Then a Townie (storyteller, if I recall correctly) posted a treatise about fairness and blah blah blah now it has become some sort of truism that long Days benefit town. Now, that may or may not be true, but long Days can very much be detrimental to the game. There really isn’t anything to discuss until next Wednesday.
Personally, I think no matter what, Town pushes off critical decision making until the last 48 hours of the Day. I think the only time long Days would be of real use is when two active players engaged in an argument or discussion from opposite sides of the world. But that rarely happens.
I really don’t think that JSexton was attacking me because of The Plan. Even with him being outed, I still read his objection to The Plan as honest: Regardless of what side you’re on, it’s not much fun. Now, obviously, his argument against me was without merit, and we both knew it, but it was more nuanced than that.
For what it’s worth, as of the time of my death, JSexton was about #3 on my personal list of lynch priorities (albeit on rather weak evidence, but I’d hoped that better evidence would come in).
And I still suspect TexCat of being the Alpha, but I agree that Town shouldn’t lynch her now, at least not yet. There are still three other Wolves to hunt even if she is. Eventually, if we don’t lose first, we’ll either get to a point where a real Alpha is revealed by a lynch (in which case we know TexCat is Town), or where all other Wolves are dead but the game is still on (in which case we know the Detective’s result is meaningless, and we can go back to full suspicion on her). That is, if we don’t lose first, which now looks quite likely.