Noooo… In fact I’m pretty sure I remember Jesus saving an adultress from stoning.
Has that been a major problem in Arkansas?
One of these stupid marches was held locally, and it made the local news, as well as the more numerous counter-protesters. They interviewed one woman who was literally crying about how Muslims are destroying the country. And I just laughed at the spokesman who was talking about how they’re marching to protect gay people and women’s rights because Muslims hate them so much. Yeah, I’m sure these people are all in favor of women’s and gay rights.
Of course not, which is why the march is so fucking stupid. It’s just an excuse for “dur Muslims suk!” bullshit.
Those weren’t Christians. 
Too bad a rather vocal segment of Christianity doesn’t follow his example.
Jesus wasn’t a Christian. And how old are you, exactly?
See any common thread there?
If they were marching in protest against the fact that stoning is still a legal punishment in some Middle Eastern countries and we’re calling for its abolition, they’d have my support.
But talk to these protesters and they’ll tell you this is centered on America. And there’s zero chance that stoning will ever be a legal practice in America. Well, maybe not zero - twenty years ago I would had said there was zero chance of torturing prisoners becoming a legal practice and events proved me wrong. But if stoning does become legal, it won’t be because of Muslims or Sharia law. It’ll be people like Billy Roper who are throwing the stones.
This isn’t about protecting Americans from being stoned. It’s about chasing some Americans out of their country because people like Billy Roper think America is their exclusive property.
We went though all this once before. Do we really want to set the clock back sixty years?
Please go back and read the whole thread, with special attention to posts #10 and #11. You appear to be jumping into the middle of a discussion and not understanding the context.
Instead of getting sidetracked about Christianity & chasing rabbits, why don’t you look up what genocide survivors & ex-muslims actually have to say on shariah as they are the most vocal opponents of it. What they don’t have is an agenda to promote islam by any means necessary but give solid reasons & backgrounds as to why it’s a bad idea & why they escaped to the west to get away from it.
Why are leftists so quick to embrace a cult of mass rape & murder of non-believers? It completely shits on liberal values of freedom, tolerance, diversity & inclusiveness. Christians aren’t massacring people by the hundreds & thousands worldwide - muslims are. Don’t even bother with “hurr… but the one “Christian” guy shot up an abortion clinic or targeted other religions!” because the same can be turned back on atheists as well as it having NOTHING to do with the teachings of Jesus.
It’s really simple.
People who kill in the name of Jesus = NOT Christian.
People who kill in the name of muhammad = muslim because that’s what muhammad commanded them to do. He got nowhere when he used peaceful methods to get what he wanted, but his cult skyrocketed when he turned to robbing caravans, raping, torturing & killing his enemies & opposition. The latter verses of violence abrogate the earlier, peaceful ones.
Yet inevitably someone brings up “context” & requests verses posted back to back. The quran’s not organized like the Bible is.
The verses muslims LOVE to trot out is the Jewish phrase everyone remembers from Schindler’s List near the end.
quran 5:32 - Yusuf Ali: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=32
Yet they completely ignore or are silent on the verse that immediately follows:
quran 5:33 - Yusuf Ali: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=33
It’s a pagan cult of dualism that promotes deception & violence. They’re peaceful if you give deference to islam & they work against you if you don’t.
Go to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ & scroll down all the islamic attacks & issues that show up in the news worldwide. They have plenty of articles on islamic issues with listed verses. (quran.com used to be a decent verification resource until they got rid of all translations but sahih international. corpus.quran has those.)
It’s time to stop believing this cult is a religion of peace. Muhammad was as screwed up & evil as Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, etc.
It’s well past time to stop polishing this turd & pretending that it’s a glorious gemstone.
How long did it take them? His name is well-known and people know what he stands for. He might not be David Duke or Don Black or anything, but it would be impossible for him to slip in there without people knowing his reputation.
I also wanted to add that, regardless of the facts and opinions on Sharia, I don’t think there is any legit movement by Muslims or anyone else to impose Sharia - at least not in the manner alleged. If anything, the Muslim legal scholars I’ve read have touted U.S. Constitutionalism much more so than “Christian” false-conservatives. I think the protest industry is big business and that this sort of stuff creates jobs for Neo-Nazis and puts people to work selling MAGA merch and the like.
I still want one, just one of these people to explain to me how we are supposed to suddenly find ourselves under Sharia Law. Or how Obama was supposed to do it. Because that shows a profound ignorance of THE WAY THINGS WORK.
The same way JFK put us under Canon law?
Well, that’s odd. I’ve managed to work with hundreds of muslims, in the US, Europe, north Africa and the Middle East, over the course of decades, and I haven’t been raped or murdered once. Just lucky, I guess.
Nonsense: no one here is doing any such thing. People are rightly pointing that very few people seem to have any clear idea what “Sharia law” is, except some vague notion of cruel and unusual punishments for various crimes, and are at a complete loss to explain, practically speaking, how such a system of punishment could more likely become enacted into US law than Old Testament punishments for similar crimes.
Failing to parrot pure bigotry does not equal embracing “a cult of mass rape & murder of non-believers”, even if Islam as a whole could fairly be described as such, and I don’t agree that it can.
I see nothing in those posts that refutes what I wrote. Is there stoning in the Middle East? Yes. Is it a terrible thing? Yes. I said both of those in my previous post.
But I stand by what else I said; there’s no apparent connection between stoning in the Middle East and what the Arkansas protest is about.
I will say I’m not familiar with ACT For America, which is the group that originally sponsored the Arkansas protest. They have withdrawn their endorsement of the protest when they saw the other groups which were taking over the event. It’s to their credit that they’ve disavowed these other groups, which are open hate groups. But I’m not completely sold on ACT For America; I suspect they may just disagree on tactics and feel that hatred is more effective when you conceal it.
Some may be looking at what’s happened in Great Britain, where sharia “councils” (not actually courts, despite what you hear on right-wing radio in the U.S.) are set up to dispense religious divorces and other actions, which may disadvantage Muslim women.
Note that having religious organizations making quasi-legal judgments is not confined to Shariah clerics (few complaints about orthodox Jewish decisions have emerged). The bottom line is that people (women, in particular) could be uninformed and intimidated enough to consider the rulings of such councils/courts binding and not be aware of their superseding rights under national/state laws. Squawkings of loons and bigots in the U.S. aside, it thankfully doesn’t seem the U.S. is headed in that direction.
That’s the thing about the Bible, there’s something there for everyone – you can pick and choose!
“If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.”
– Leviticus 20:10
Leviticus 20 cited above actual prescribes death for about a dozen different offenses, listed all in a row, including this gem that fundamentalist Christians seem to have taken to heart:
“If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
– Leviticus 20:13
Or:
This isn’t Pakistan, though. These people are protesting Sharia law right here in the U.S. Which is about as likely as the Barack Obama joining the KKK.
There’s nothing in those posts that refutes that the sky is blue, either. But we weren’t talking about the sky being blue. We were talking about the price of butter in Denmark.