Watch the video. Zimmerman never walked down the center area at all. He walked across the top of the Tee to get a house number on Retreat View and then was walking back to his truck when Martin spoke to him.
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/zimmerman-reenactment-on-feb-27/vcQxd/
If Zimmerman was never behind the houses, then how did the shooting happen there, and why was Martin’s body found there? Doesn’t add up.
Watch the video.
It’s indisputable that Zimmerman was in the center area, so if he says he didn’t go back there, then we have to view that as a glaringly obvious falsehood.
AFAICT, GZ saw TM before that point.
Could be. Just sayin.
Iirc, GZ said that during the altercation, they moved further down the walkway.
I don’t think glaring is the right word.
But I can’t figure out a few things.
Where was Z when he got off the phone w/ the dispatcher/operator/ w/e?
I had thought that he had travelled from his truck for 15 seconds or so before he was told that wasn’t needed. Then he talked on the phone for about another minute and a half before getting off the phone.
Yet in his re-enactment, he seems to say that he made it all the way to the other side of the block while he was still on the phone and that TM jumped him while he was walking back to his truck.
So that’s a 15 second 100yard dash while talking on the phone–not too shabby. Then he stands on the other side of the block for a minute and a half talking to the dispatcher?
From GZ’s telling, the attack occurred during the time it took him to walk back across that block.
Yet the timeline from the prosecutor gives GZ 2 minutes of time between when he got off the phone and when he met up w/ TM.
The timeline from the Seminole County Sheriff give GZ 4 minutes of time between when he got off the phone and when he met up w/ TM.
You just said that Zimmerman was never there in the center area behind the houses, but that is exactly where the body was, and where the shooting occurred. I was addressing your assertion, so you need to defend that, not just wave the video about dismissively. Either your assertion is not shown to be the case in the video, and he didn’t say he was never there, or the statement that he made to that effect in the video is wrong. So which one is wrong, the statement in the video or your assertion about it?
Zimmerman claims Martin jumped out of the bushes.
Did anyone search these bushes for fibers consistent with Martin’s clothing? Did an examination of Martin’s clothing reveal any evidence of contact with these bushes? Of course it was raining and that could have complicated or compromised physical evidence.
Second. In my experience it is very common that callers to 911 do not know the address of an incident, particularly when it occurs at a location other than their residence. VERY common. Probably the majority of the calls I answer. Heck, many callers do not know their own address.
When a caller says they don’t know or are unsure of an address then there are various techniques to try. The call taker asked him to meet the responding officer at a specific location. Common technique. Zimmerman asked that the officer call him. Also a common technique.
Apparently the police initially went to the wrong address. If they hadn’t, and arrived just a little bit earlier, there would have been no shooting.
I am not so sure about that. He said on eth re-enactment video that he didn’t know where M came from because he wasn’t looking that direction.
What makes that apparent?
I don’t recall that being noted in any of the documents I have read.
Make that the front of the townhouse, and not the back.
What I said was that Zimmerman never walked in that area. During the struggle they ended up a little bit south of that. Martin’s body was a little further south after Zimmerman pushed him off. From what I recall that is consistent with the actual crime scene photos.
It’s probably because they had Martin’s telephone on-hand at the time his Dad called in a missing person’s report. It took them a day to figure it out.
Looking at his reenactment now. More holes.
-He claims he told the dispatcher that Martin was circling his car. We know this didn’t happen. What’s funny is that he neglects to point out what Martin did after he did all this circling business…he apparently glossed over this important detail so that he can talk about how OMG he didn’t know what street he was on! Isn’t that amazing!
-Very little of what he relayed about his conversation with the dispatcher matches up with the recording. He made it sound like the dispatcher is the one who goaded him into looking for where Martin was, when that wasn’t true. The dispatcher was only concerned about pinpointing Zimmerman’s location, and in fact told Zimmerman not to follow him shortly after Martin runs off.
-He said Martin repeatedly hit Zimmerman in the face. Why did Martin’s fists not have any corresponding injuries then?
-Why did he say he pushed Martin’s hands apart after he killed him? He emphasizes this over and over, even going so far to explain *why *he did this. But Martin’s hands were found tucked under his body when the cops showed up. This is a weird thing to lie about, but it’s hard to see how it could be anything other than a lie, given how adamant he is about it.
GZ never says this happened during the reenactment.
I recall hearing it.
This coincides with the video. He told the dispatcher that he was heading toward the other entrance which translates to traveling down the road away from the clubhouse. In the video he said Martin cut through between the houses. That coincides with the direction he said Martin was traveling.
He didn’t evade anything. He was very specific as to where to meet him: “Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck.”
he just didn’t have the name of the street. You’re literally making stuff up.
Again, you don’t know how long he had his hand over his mouth. He didn’t say anything about an extended period in any of the testimony. You might have listened to the 911 call before you posted. You can hear that it’s not continuous.
He asked for help to restrain Martin. That implies he’s still alive.