Massive measles outbreak - thank you, Andrew Fucking Wakefield

Speaking of “polarizing” figures:

The annual “AutismOne” conference (being held in Chicago May 22-26) is a sanctuary for antivaxers and promoters of bogus autism treatments (among the presenters is a woman who advocates giving autistic children industrial bleach enemas to remove “toxins”). Guess who will be speaking at the conference on “Defending Academic Integrity and Research”?

Yep, Andrew Wakefield, the poster boy for unethical and fraudulent research and grotesque conflicts of interest.

Wonder how anyone in the audience will be able to keep a straight face.

Because they love him. He’s the only doctor or scientist in the entire world who really understands what they’re going through, and he’s the only one who really wants to help them. He’s a combination of all the saints, with a little bit of God thrown in for good measure.

Cognitive Dissonance.

Botox.

Homeopathic botox.

Bleach enemas.

It. Has. Been. Proven. Why, oh why, can’t that be enough for everybody?

Hey, it’s Jenny McCarthy’s beauty secret.

Oh look, the anti-vaxx movement decided that the whole measles outbreak thing was fakery and shot their mouths off.

Surprise, surprise, surprise

There’s a doozy of a review in the New York Times’ Book Review section today - on Jennifer Margulies’ “The Business of Baby”.

The reviewer notes that while the book is written by a journalist and senior fellow in investigative journalism at Brandeis University, it is remarkably simplistic, one-sided and prone to view all mainstream medical care as profit-driven.

"Margulis employs a simple heuristic in evaluating the practices and products associated with childbearing: anything used by mainstream doctors and hospitals = bad; anything used by midwives or alternative healers = good. (She also approves of anything used by Scandinavians; she spends many pages praising the health outcomes of women in Norway and Iceland, without delving deeply into the demographic and economic differences between America and such countries.) Her conviction that what is natural must be good leads her to romanticize not only other countries but also other eras: “In colonial times and during most of the 19th century, the majority of births in America took place at home,” she writes approvingly.“Birthing women were usually attended by informally trained midwives who passed on their skills from generation to generation” — while a birth taking place in a hospital today involves “at least half a dozen medical professionals.”

Margulies’ nostalgia for the 19th century overlooks how common it was for women and newborns in those days to die or be severely injured by childbirth complications (midwives in the 19th century did not have hospital specialists and neonatal ICUs for backup, but apparently the ability to seek out such information is not taught in investigative journalism classes at Brandeis).

The main reason I bring up this book is that Margulies (surprise!) has an entire chapter dedicated to slamming vaccines.

"Margulis…proves unfit for (the role of sorting fact from rumor) in a shockingly irresponsible chapter on vaccines. All of her favorite conceits are here: the money-hungry pharmaceutical companies; the pediatricians who schedule routine immunizations simply to collect insurance reimbursements; the health care workers who patronize and bully women who refuse vaccinations for their children; and the brave parents who “decide that they do not want to intramuscularly inject their child with something that is not part of the natural course of life.”

I think I may have to reserve a copy of this book at the library so I can give it an appropriate review on Amazon. :slight_smile:

I bought a copy and gave it an appropriate review yesterday. :smiley:

Margulis is the kind of anti-vaxxer I have no tolerance at all for at all. Her mother was Lynn Margulis the highly distinguished biologist. Her stepfather was Carl Sagan. She has a great job as a distinguished journalism fellow. She’s not an uneducated high school dropout trying to make sense of this issue without a great deal of resources to assist her.

She ought to be on the side of reason on this issue (and so many others) and yet she isn’t. It’s inexcusable. The questions she asks and the points she attempts to make are so fucking stupid that I almost literally cannot believe someone with her education and background made them.

I think the dumbest one (as I pointed out in the review of the book) is when she writes, “large scale vaccine safety studies have never been compared the immune systems of completely unvaccinated children to vaccinated children nor have we studied the possible long-term damage that may be done to the immune system by multiple vaccines.”

I am just fucking astonished that she has the sheer chutzpah to write a sentence that fucking stupid.

It’s straight out of the anti-vax playbook and such an obviously dumb question that anyone with any science training or a hint of logical reasoning should not be asking it in the first place.

My co-author does an utterly brilliant job of explaining just why in a marvelous piece she wrote for our book’s Facebook page. I am going to quote from it quite liberally as I’m sure she won’t mind:

Nice review.

Speaking of nonfactual assertions in Margulis’ book, this is my new favorite:

“In America even the doctors most vocally championing the CDC’s current schedule are choosing an alternative vaccine schedule for their own infants.”

Like who, for instance? Or should we just take this glurge on faith?

Margulis will be appearing at the AutismOne quack-fest in Chicago later this month (the same conference that will feature Andrew Wakefield speaking on “Defending Academic Integrity and Research” and the Geiers pushing their hormonal therapy for autism (Mark Geier being the physician who lost his medical license in multiple states over his Lupron chemical castration protocol for autistic children). Margulis will be sharing a platform with other distinguished :dubious: authors like Louise Habakus.

Thank you.

My god that conference is a line up of lunatics and their quackery. Jenny McCarthy, homeopathy, Dan Olmsted, Jake Crosby.

One woman is apparently arguing that her child with Down Syndrome got leukemia not because DS kids are far more suspectible to the illness but because of vaccines. Because 95 days after her kid got her MMR vaccine, the poor girl got leukemia. As a parent I have to wonder: who the hell notes the exact days so long after a vaccine? I keep track of the one my kids get for only a few days to make sure they’re okay.

I wish I lived in Chicago so I could show up and protest.

Time to post the old story of how someone got booted from AutismOne for no real good reason.

There you go, Chicago-area Dopers - if you want to attend AutismOne and not be recognized as skeptical infidels, be sure to wear your nose-glasses and giant clown feet.

You’ll fit right in.

Holy (and clean) shit. Can we just go down the list of people who register and call Child and Family Services on them?

Now that Alanis, is ironic.

Quote away :slight_smile:

That Margulis book is offensive in the amount of stupid and unproven claims that are made.

If there were justice in the world, Andrew Wakefield would be in jail. Instead, the anti-vaccine movement keeps sucking his dick and worshiping him as a saint.

The AutismOne conference is a critical mass of stupid as well - how anyone can justify giving autistic children, many of whom are non-verbal, enemas of industrial bleach and at the same time refuse to protect them by vaccinating them will be one of the great mysteries of this era.

I thought this was some kind of joke and then I googled it.

What. The. Fucking. Fuck. Those people are psychopaths and their kids should be taken away from them.

Even worse than the parents are the folks who administer such dangerous therapies.

They were so threatened by comments made by a 17 year old kid from Wales that they threatened him with legal action and e-mailed an image of his house!

Burzynski does unproven quack cancer treatments, not industrial-bleach-enema treatments for non-verbal autistic children. But there’s a lot of overlap between the nutbars in those communities.