Well, regardless of how the World Bank, that group that’s so notorious for just making stuff up, generated their so-called “numbers”, I think we can all agree that those so-called “statistics” are trumped by the fact that you’ve seen some “herds” of “filthy” Mexicans running around. And everyone knows, after all, that the measles vaccine is only effective for as long as the vaccinated child remains spotlessly clean. What are those World Bank idiots thinking?! It’s like they didn’t even BOTHER to check with curlcoat!
Did anyone get the number of that goalpost that just flew past my head? Nearly laid me out, it did. Sheesh, people! Why are we continually talking about measles in a thread about measles outbreaks and their relationship to lack of measles vaccination?! WHY ISN’T THIS MEASLES THREAD ABOUT HEPATITIS, YOU BASTARDS?!
The schedule differs slightly in many places from the one you’ll find here in America. Americans get the hep b at birth while several European countries may give it at three months, to a specific population or not at all. This is for a wide variety of reasons including the fact that have a much higher Asian population where the disease is unfortunately a huge health problem. Americans also get the chicken pox vaccine whereas many European countries may not give it all. Or only to a select population that has other health concerns.
European vaccination rates have generally been quite high. Unfortunately the Wakefield scandal had a huge impact in some countries, particularly the UK where uptake of the MMR vaccine is only now beginning to catch up to where it was before the scandal.
curlcoat, I haven’t seen any evidence for your notion that Mexico is a more significant source of vaccine-preventable diseases than our own citizens. Can you explain why you think that?
She thinks that because she’s a moron. The entire last pages of this thread are basically her asking stupid questions about vaccines, having multiple not-stupid posters answer her stupid questions and then having her ask them again.
Last year’s news articles on the reimmergence of whooping cough mentioned that most of the original cases were adults “from the Mexican immigrant community” who couldn’t afford the immunizations. It was hard to tell from the wording, but my best guess was that they couldn’t afford them in America. There was no way to tell if they had immigrated as adults or if they had been born in America.
The 2013 Texas outbreaks are mainly responsible due to the middle class Anglo populations, especially in the Austin and Fort Worth areas where anti-vax nuttery has especially taken root. The county with the biggest issues for Pertussis is Tarrant, which is both suburban and whiter than average for Texas.
As for the measles outbreak, as I mentioned above, it was brought over by a middle class white man going to Indonesia. From him, it spread to the rest of his megachurch, which has a large population of anti-vax nutters (primarily middle class, suburban white people at that) which not surprisingly is also located in Tarrant County.
We could probably do worse than blowing Tarrant County off the face of the earth. More than half of Texas might even agree with me.
The first article states that Hispanic infants of migrant workers may not get the full series of shots as quickly as the schedule lists. And from the second article:
Apparently at the beginning of the resurgence (more than a year ago - time flies) the over-representation among infants was reported, without the contributing factors being noted, in the first wave of articles. Six months is the normal time to get the third shot, so most Hispanic babies are getting their shots on time.
I knew it was the folks refusing to vaccinate that kept it spreading. Now I know that the previously reported Mexican connection was overblown and off base. Thanks for pressing for more information. There was definitely more information out there.
You see, it requires some extremely special wilful ignorance to bring out the best weapons against it. This here thread’s got some darned good information in it.
Now that curlie isn’t posting in this thread anymore, who will ask the truly stupid questions that the rest of us are too ashamed to admit to having ourselves? I mean come on…I’m pretty clueless regarding Mexican vaccination rates, but I don’t think I would have had the nuts to actually claim that they’re all just dirty poor people with a crap government who isn’t providing the health care necessary to avoid epidemic disease outbreaks…
