I saw the Matrix Reloaded last night. In the last half hour or so, the movie seemed to suffer from severe editing errors. I am wondering if these were errors in the particular print I saw, or if they actually intended the film to be this way.
The sequences with the problems were when Morpheus, Niobe and others are meeting in the Matrix, discussing their war plans. This scene was broken up by pieces of the scenes when they are attacking the several installations. I’m not certain, but I think there was a couple pieces of the meeting shown after Niobe had been killed. There were no indications of flipping between present and future when going from one scene to another. There were no transitions between the scenes. It was extremely confusing.
I’ll have to see the film again to double check what I saw, but until then can anyone confirm or refute the scene sequences toward the end of the movie?
I noticed the same thing, but find it hard to believe that an editing error of that magnitude could have slipped through on a big-budget movie like this. My take was that the intent was to flop back and forth between planning/doing, but you’re right that the sequence just ended up being very confusing. Then again, maybe this (along with Neo stopping the killer bots) is a hint that what they all think is the real world is just another layer of VR.
I saw it last night too and this part not only made perfect sense, I thought they handled it well.
You flip between Morpheus talking about what they have to do, to seeing the different little groups of people going about doing it. We only see the highlights of it… otherwise it would be a long and boring sequence of setting up the destruction of the power plant and the infiltration into the building and the guys on the 3 ships co-ordinating things.
My problem was the long gratuitous ‘rave’ scene in Zion. I’m no prude but did we need long slow shots of half naked people shakin’ their groove thang and Neo and Trinity gettin’ it on?
There were two black women. Niobe was wearing a burgundy crocodile outfit and the other woman was wearing a smooth black top.
There were three ships:
Nebuchadnezzar (sp?) - Morpheus, Neo, Trinity, Link
Vigilant - first captain that volunteered - bald guy, woman in smooth black outfit. This ship exploded in a fire ball and the three people in the matrix all slumped over and died, including the lady in the black shirt who was sitting at the computer terminal (Trinity later came in and completed this task)
Niobe’s ship (didn’t catch name)
I was a little confused myself with what happened to the other two ships.
One ship - crew definitely impaled
One ship - definitely exploded and the crew died inside the matrix
I think that was the same ship, Glory - the operator saw the bomb coming and began running and screaming, and then the bomb exploded, he fell and was definitely impaled, and then the explosion killed the rest of the crew that was inside the matrix.
lno, actually, the guy that fell wasn’t the guy that got impaled. There was a guy sitting at the computer, getting ready to set the EMP or get them out of there, and he was th one impaled when the other guy (the one with the limp) came back across the bridge/gantry.
Because they were out of commision, the bomb went off and killed the other three people, who were jacked into the Matrix.
Dead on. It seemed pretty much a filler sequence. There’s a little love making, some quick pans of boobies, and whole lot of techno.
It lasts a few minutes and doesn’t advance the plot (unless their having sex produces a little Neo or something in III, but still…the techno dance is overboard). It’s the best point in the movie to go to the bathroom, get popcorn, take a smoke, whatever.
Anyone else think that there was a continuity error with the Ducati motorcycle used in the freeway chase? When Trinity jumps on board (in bright sunlight) and they show the Ducati logo against a black field. But during certain parts of the chase it is definitely green.
Also Persephone’s lipstick changed colors a couple of times.
The only error that jumped out at me was during the freeway scene - there is no way in hell that the cop car driving agents would have been able to catch up to trinity on the bike, let alone drive alonside her taking shots.
OK, I was really caught up in the driving/chase scene, but even so I noticed one (I think) glaring error: When Morpheus and the Keymaker are on the back of the semi, at one point Morpheus does this huge backflip (complete in slo-mo) and lands at the very back of the trailer - right where the Keymaker was supposed to be standing! In one shot you can see the last 3/4 of the trailer from above, and NO keymaker - yet he shows up again 5 seconds later. Did I miss something or did the editors?
Also, I agree that the jumping/cutting scene was doing a present/future jump, but it WAS confusing. After the guys hacking the powerplant died I caught up and said…“Oh, okay.”
I noticed that too, keithnmick. Sitting at a red light, ain’t no car getting ahead of me in my 86 BMW R80. Ain’t no way any car is getting anywhere near a full-boring Ducati screaming along.
My favorite flaw was the brand new Cadillac CTS and Cadillac EXT chasing each other around. I didn’t realize cars that didn’t exist when the Matrix was created were routinely added into the Matrix program…
Dooku those EXTs and CTSs are just like Windows updates! Yeah, they weren’t there originally, but someone somewhere clicked on the “Update now!” icon and suddenly they appeared.
Other proof that the entire Matrix is running one OS: all of the vehicles (with the exception of the big-rigs) were GM: a gold Tahoe that rolls over, Malibu cop cars, Saturns getting squashed, etc.
