This is rich! A handful of celebrities culled from the last 30 years or so.
Let’s see now, how many times over the last 30 years have we heard the liberal POV espoused by, or conservatism made fun of by, the likes of: Warren Beatty; Annette Bening; Susan Sarandon; Tim Robbins; Robert Redford; Barbra Streisand; Jane Fonda; Alec Baldwin; Oliver Stone; Sean Penn; Bono; Mike Farrell; Madonna; Julia Roberts; Joy Behar; Oprah Winfrey; Martin Sheen; Whoopi Goldberg; Janeane Garofalo; the Dixie Chicks; George Clooney; Cher; Woody Harrelson; Candice Bergen; Kirstie Alley; Jay Leno & David Letterman; Ed Asner; Danny Glover; Spike Lee; Sandra Bernhard; Sarah Silverman; Hugh Hefner; Rosie O’Donnell; George Carlin; John Cusack; Michael Moore; Jack Nicholson; Ted Turner…
And this barely scratches the surface…shall I go on?
Just like your pretending that because we have Limbaugh and Fox we dominate the media, the idea that there is an even remotely fair comparison between right and left wing celebrities is laughable…as is the contention that they have no impact.
Why? you’re right!, all those liberals get to give their opinions while poor republican celebrities merely get elected to the highest positions of power in the US government!
Like I said upthread, it works when you guys have the playing field all to yourselves, but it only took Limbaugh and Fox to even things up. Why do you think that is? It’s because your ideology can’t stand the light of day, that’s why…and once people begin to hear the other side of the story, they realize just how much damage 40 years of liberal influence on this society has had.
Okay, I’ll see if I can take it the rest of the way:
You guys mentioned Reagan and Gopher and Fred Thomson, so I’ll toss in another: Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Have you noticed that it seems to be our guys who are willing to put in the hours and the effort to get elected and then work full-time to support their beliefs, where your guys are content to go on t.v. or to rallys and rabble-rouse, then return to the comfort of their Bel Air and Malibu mansions to hang out by the pool and snort cocaine?
I’ve disliked Al Franken for years, but at least he seems willing to put some effort where his mouth is.
Anyone see Chuck Norris on Larry King last night? He combated Arianna Huffington’s comments on his contradictory “let’s cut the budget and cut taxes while continuing the war in Iraq” by
1=first pointing out- brilliantly- that Arianna’s rich (unlike Norris, who gives all of his money to orphans and lives on a pension and the money his wife gets selling homemade NASCAR coasters and potholders)
Cite? I haven’t watched the video that SA is gibbering about. Did he say it in that?
Either you’re letting Damon’s politics cloud your judgment, you haven’t seen any of his best movies, or you have shit/no taste in movies.
I would rate his movies thusly (all IMHO, of course)…
Excellent:
The Good Shepherd
The Departed
Syriana
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
The Talented Mr. Ripley
Saving Private Ryan (why do you hate America, ralph124c?)
Good Will Hunting
Good to Very good:
The Bourne Ultimatum
The Bourne Supremacy
The Bourne Identity
All the Pretty Horses
Dogma
Rounders
Courage Under Fire
Chasing Amy
Mystic Pizza
Decent to good:
The Brothers Grimm
Ocean’s Thirteen
Ocean’s Twelve
Ocean’s Eleven
Jersey Girl
The Good Mother
I haven’t seen any of these so I can’t judge. Some do seem really iffy, but his good work makes up for anything else:
Youth Without Youth (uncredited)
Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon 3D (voice)
EuroTrip
Stuck on You
The Third Wheel (uncredited)
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (voice)
Gerry
The Majestic (voice)
Finding Forrester
Titan A.E. (voice)
The Legend of Bagger Vance
The Rainmaker
Glory Daze
Geronimo: An American Legend
School Ties
Field of Dreams (uncredited, extra)
I mean really. Ragging on someone’s movies because of their politics (or religion or whatever), when the actor in question, Matt Damon, is fairly highly-regarded (not to mention Academy Award-nominated as an actor) is inane, and so utterly predictable. Rag on Pam Anderson for her “work” all you want. Not Damon.
Hell, I dislike Arnold Schwarzenegger as a politician, but thoroughly enjoy quite a few of his movies (Stay Hungry, Terminator, Terminator 2, Commando, Predator, Last Action Hero, Total Recall and The Running Man, specifically). It pains me like crazy that Bruce Willis is a deluded Republican, but that doesn’t stop me from enjoying the hell out of just about everything he’s ever done on the big screen (small screen too, with Moonlighting). I think Tom Cruise is a sad moronic cult dupe, but I think he’s a fine actor who’s been in several great movies and has given several great performances. I feel almost the same way about John Travolta (though Cruise is the much better actor).
I just roll my eyes at such silly blanket statements (“he makes lousy movies”).
Oh, you have no idea how nice I’ve been to you. I have eyestrain from rolling my eyes so often at your posts in the past week+. I’ve just kept my mouth shut for the most part because there are plenty of far more intelligent, articulate people posting my thoughts much better than I ever could. You’re a very strange person.
Glad you like it and all, it is a brilliant album, but you’d despise her politics. She’s way left of me even. Nice to know you don’t let violent disagreement get in the way of liking great music. back atcha.
And btw, I don’t hate Palin because she’s a Republican. I hate her because she’s a right-wing, fundie Creationist whackjob. Maybe Damon feels the same way.
You keep saying this, but out of the last 40 years, only 12 of them had a liberal in the White House. I remember the entire 1980’s as being dominated by conservatives, and this past decade as well. And who exactly do you think is controlling the media? Is someone like Rupert Murdoch a liberal in your mind?
And this gave me a chuckle:
Right. Couldn’t be that liberal actors realize that they should leave running the country to those who are educated and experienced enough to do so, while conservatives will vote for whatever pretty face happens to have enough money to mount a campaign? Couldn’t be that liberals have opinions but stick to what they know, while conservatives don’t have any respect for our government and are arrogant enough to think that it doesn’t take brains, or know-how, to run the most powerful country in the free world? No, must be that liberals are lazy and drug-addled. Wow. You’ll just say anything, won’t you?
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say that actors shouldn’t meddle in politics, and then praise only the ones on your side who do and chastise those who don’t and characterize them as degenerates. But you will anyway, because fairminded, evenhanded discourse is not something you’re interested in.
You know, when they made Supremacy, I thought: “Damn, I hope they don’t go all Matrix on us and fuck it up with a trilogy.” And then when Ultimatum arrived, I was pissed, and refused to see it on principle.
Until someone told me what I was missing. The Ultimatum was absolutely fucking brilliant, the best of the three.
What you don’t understand is that the crap I read around here every day is just as offensive to me as the things I say are offensive to you…and they probably make about as much sense.
So every few months or so I have to blow off steam. The alternative is to become a right-wing Der Trihs.
Well, she’s a true artist, and just like one shouldn’t expect PCness out of old people, one shouldn’t expect conservatism out of people who are true artists. (Though there are exceptions on both sides.)
As far as conservative Hollywood stars, I’d be interested in hearing what James Woods and Ron Silver have to say, and believe their opinions would be reasonably well thought out. But on the other hand, the Bush years have seen several of the Republicans I respect abandoning the party for the Libertarians.
I once thought Ben Stein’s views were well reasoned (I disagreed with him, but thought he’d actually given them thought). That was before Xpelled and other ventures. Now I’m just waiting for his column on his wife catching him masturbating to Palin (“I keep imagining we’re in the Garden of Eden at the beginning of the Earth 6,000 years ago…”).
I don’t mind stars talking about politics (especially when they’re answering direct questions – what, you don’t think they’ll be asked them so close to the election? And on the same day, I believe, he appeared at a fundraiser for impoverished children at home and abroad), but I wish Entertainment Tonight would cram it with their political coverage. Worse than Fox News. But as a certain politically active celeb recently said to me, it’s all part of politics being ‘cool,’ and overall, I think that’s a positive thing.
