Assuming you aren’t lying about this to troll and aren’t actually insane, you are most likely stupidly fooling yourself into believing a fantasy because you’re too weak to form the kind of intimate relationship you’re talking about with a real person. You’re (if you aren’t trolling or insane) as pathetic as one of those guys who dresses up and talks to his real doll. Actually more pathetic, since the real dolls actually provide orgasms and access to the car pool lane.
So lying, sick or pathetic loser… I don’t care which, but to play into your nonsense is against the nature of this board.
Against the nature of this board? I don’t know, I’ve seen some people pretty weak and unable to have intimate relationships with live people gather here for years. Not everyone, mind you…but plenty.
I don’t really know much of anything about meeniey7’s situation, but you don’t need to climb up on any water tower with your bucket of paint to save the good name of this board ferchrissakes. You’re not part of some secret, superior society here… you’re just on a messageboard which is as varied as people everywhere. It’ll be okay, I swear.
At the very least, if this is that one in a billion chance that it’s actually REAL, she should be talking to the networks, James Randi, etc., because proof of life after death would be HUGE.
Why are you humoring an idiot or liar on a board that makes it’s goal to “Fight Ignorance”?
Do you think we should not argue against moon landing skeptics? How about Intelligent Design advocates? At what level is it okay to point out that someone’s opinions are based on ignorance?
If the claims in question are of a religious/mystical/superstitious nature, yes, it always has been. Since such beliefs are incapable of withstanding investigation or even reason, the people who follow them use every tool they can to shout down all criticism. Including claiming that pointing out that an obviously foolish, baseless belief is indeed foolish and baseless is horribly impolite, trollish, and so forth…
I know this is a fool’s errand, since you obviously have cheese in your ears when it comes to listening to anyone who isn’t in perfect agreement with you, but I have to repeat just once more for you that I don’t expect anyone to believe me on my word alone. It was a thread about the supernatural and I told about something that happens to me because I felt like sharing. Save your pissy ire for people who are actually going around trying to convert people or grind them under their jackboots or whatever you think religious people do.
Again, almost everyone defending her doesn’t believe her. We’re just trying to:
Do a test (that will presumably show her it’s baseless to her own satisfaction). Think about it, if she still believes this is real she may be less receptive to help. If she proves it to herself she may be more open to “beating this.” (Or the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off chance we have some new things to learn about the world)
Point out that to show people their claims are wrong you don’t have to be confrontational about it. We’re not saying Dio is rude because he disagrees per se, if so we’d be awfully hypocritical here, we’re saying the way he is attacking the claims is a little rude. Disagreeing is okay, the manner with which it is done is open to being called rude.
Seriously though, at the risk of getting a heaping pile of shit thrown at me… I have witnessed things that I cannot explain. I used to be agnostic bordering on atheist until I started nursing. Working in trauma situations and witnessing death so much I have seen things that make no earthly sense.
I do not feel the need to try to convince anyone of what I’ve seen, and rarely bring it up to anyone unless the topic comes up. I know what I’ve experienced and I know that others I’ve worked with have had similar situations. I just don’t need validation of it from people to trust what I saw.
I’m not saying it turned me into a religious person, but it has (in part) made me open my mind to believe that there is something else besides death. I don’t know what it is, but I’m just not convinced that what we know to be “true” is all there is. We use so little of our brains and science knows so very little about our brains, that I’m not ruling out these things.
This thread reminds me uncomfortably of an incident at Girl Scout camp when I was about 12, in which two girls “murdered” a third girl’s invisible friend with disturbing glee. As far as one could tell, the girl whose invisible friend it was completely believed that’s what was really happening, and begged for her friend’s life. Once the friend was pronounced dead by its “attackers”, the girl was inconsolable, and her friend never returned. Did I believe for one second that her friend was real? Absolutely not. Did it bother me to watch its murder? You bet. I feel like this thread is intended to do the same thing, and it makes me sad inside.
Assuming you work ER (I used to be an EMT) you also probably see plenty of psych issues with auditory/visual hallucinatory components . Indulging or reinforcing those hallucinations is not a good idea and can in fact be very destructive to a patients emotional health.
I too have seen more than my share of death and dying, I never saw anything that “made no earthly sense”. If anything my experiences as an EMT gutted what little religious faith I may have had left.
How did they know they successfuly assaulted the invisible friend? How did it disturb you to witness the killing of something you didn’t think existed? How can you murder something that does not exist.
And, like Diogenes, I don’t believe that any of that stuff happened, any more than I believe that a 900 foot tall Jesus actually confronted Oral Roberts. Such beliefs are foolish and dangerous, and do not deserve respect in any way.
Your point is? Like I said before, I know nothing of Meenie7’s situation and I haven’t said anything about encouraging her or discouraging her. Thank you for your ex-EMT view on how I should handle my patients (none of which are on this board).
Also, those are your experiences. They are different than mine. It’s nice that you know how to use quotation marks, but since I am not trying to convince anyone (like I also mentioned) I guess you’re just pointing out that our experiences are different. I’ll be dipped.
I believe good ol’ Billy Shakespeare mentioned that there are more things in heaven and earth than drachillix has dreamt of and all of that. I’m sure a bazillion other people who’ve worked with death and dying will come in to agree with you, that’s faboo. It still doesn’t change my mind.
Perhaps you’re taking that a bit literally. I imagine (although I can’t speak for her) that it disturbed her to see these girls being so hateful to a peer for the sheer sake of shittiness. Perhaps she was distressed because the girl was beside herself and inconsolable. Not a far jump to feel terrible for another human being in distress. Man, that’s a concept!
My point is you are witnessing for supernatural experiences in a thread involving a real person who, even if the OP is being an asshole about it, is probably experiencing some kind of mental illness relating to a perceived supernatural event.
