So, Rigamarole, if Janet Reno came up to you at a party and grabbed your junk without provocation, you’d think that was just dandy?
Not so much hard to believe as simply laughable.
Somehow I don’t find that very likely, although the image you propose has given me a great idea for a movie plot. 
I’d find it funny, and have a great story to tell.
I voted for none of the above, although a guy tried to kiss me in a bar once. It was a gay bar, so I couldn’t exactly say, “what the hell do you think you’re doing?”
Large women terrorizing men with strap-ons doesn’t happen nearly as often as large men (or even normal or small men) terrorizing women. I’ve never been afraid of being sexually assaulted or raped by a woman. I’ve spoken with people who have been raped by a man but I’ve never spoken with someone who’s been raped by a woman.
I responded that I’ve been made to feel uncomfortable by a woman, but it was just tame stuff like repeated flirting when I make it clear I’m not interested. No woman has ever wanted me enough to sexually assault me. 
Oh and by the way, I have had an unknown woman come up to me and grab my junk once before, unsolicited. She was a street walker and looked strung out on drugs (kind of nasty, not really attractive). I politely declined her offer to spend any time with her and walked away, but with a smile on my face since I respected her moxie and didn’t feel the least bit threatened. I certainly wouldn’t have complained of “sexual assault”.
Ummm, if a man did the same thing to a female or a child there would be some serious jail time involved if they were convicted.
I don’t think there should be a double standard between what happens to a man versus a woman. Will men mostly shrug it off? Yeah. Does it mean it should be practically legal for women to do that? No.
Even if people took it as seriously as the same actions against women (which, I admit, even I do not even though intellectually, it’s the same,) there still would be fewer convictions because women do it less and more men shrug it off. That doesn’t mean that if it happens to me and I complain about it that I should be ignored.
Again, I must stress that in actuality I myself would take a man reporting seemingly random sexual assault less seriously than a woman, even though it’s not strictly morally apprpriate to have a double standard. But I would take it almost as seriously if the man were in a compromising situation such as being double-teamed, physically weaker, or the woman were the man’s boss. Stuff like that happens all the time and is no laughing matter even though women are perpetrators far less than men.
That’s the difference here: I’m perfectly OK with the double standard. They aren’t the same situation, and shouldn’t be treated as such. Like I said, when it happened to me I did not feel threatened. If a man did it to a woman, she would have very good reason to feel threatened.
Did you all skip right over post #16?
It seems they did.
I’ve been in situations that were extremely sexually uncomfortable where a woman was being VERY aggressive with me. The idea that I should find it laughable, funny and a great story to tell disgusts me to no end.
(I also had it happen once that does make what strikes me now as a funny story, but it’s not even close to the same league as other times)
(3) and (4) for me. Basically creepy people at work making inappropriate comments to me. One was an older man, one was an older woman.
For the people who think that a guy being on the receiving end of this kind of thing is funny, it’s not. I was certainly not in any physical danger - this stuff happened in big busy office buildings and I could easily beat either person in a fight (things never got within a country mile of a physical confrontation).
However it made me extremely uncomfortable. The one guy kept coming on to me, calling and emailing. It’s not a pleasant situation and I had to discuss the situation with my boss and it died out (I worked 11 floors away from the guy which helped).
The situation with the woman was much more delicate because she was my manager. I had to complain to HR, they had to have a talk with her about appropriate workplace behavior (this was supposed to be someone with decades of experience as a manager) and I was basically walking on eggshells for some time, concerned about my job.
She got fired on the last day of her probationary period. Horrible clueless person, good riddance.
So was this sexual assault? No. Was I ever in any physical danger? No.
Was it unwanted sexual attention? Yes. Did it make me nervous, upset, stress me out, impact my personal life and my job performance? Yes.
What, where a guy claims his girlfriend “forces” him to have sex all the time and he fears that she will “retaliate” if he doesn’t oblige? So that means… he’s afraid his girlfriend is gonna beat him up? That’s exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about - any man who would say something like that needs to grow a pair.
Maybe she would retaliate by filing a false police report saying he hurt or abused her. Or hurting his pet. Or damaging his property. Or threatening to lie to his employer about something to get him in trouble. Or any matter of other psychological things that would be shitty to be on the receiving end of.
Jeezo-Pete - kicking the crap out of someone isn’t the only way to intimidate them.
I don’t think it’s as unusual as you think for men to get assaulted by women, even men who are physically stronger than the woman in question.
One reason is that most men have been well-conditioned to never hit a woman. Many women don’t have the same restraint. This puts men in a real disadvantage in a physical confrontation with a woman, especially if she knows the man will not hit her back. Another reason is that a man who strikes a woman back, even in self-defense, is almost always assumed to be in the wrong if the police get involved. Also, whereas society today has zero tolerance for a man hitting a woman, many people find it incredulous or even funny if a woman were to do the same to a man. The old comic strip trope in which a woman throws a rolling pin at a man may be humorous, but not if you’re the one getting hit in the head by a rolling pin. Finally, even more so than women, a man getting abused by a women may be quite reluctant to do anything to stop it, out of embarrassment.
Holy shit - I thought some of the comments in the women and rape thread were pretty bad, but none of them told a rape victim to her face that she was just being a coward. How on earth can you think this kind of behaviour is appropriate? How is picking on someone who’s already been repeatedly victimised and violated an okay thing to do in your world?
I am an adult man. I have been made to feel awkward by adult men and women, but I have never felt my safety to be threatened.
:rolleyes: Jesus Christ, this is such a backward opinion. Not every man is awash with testosterone, and that’s great! That is, in fact, how it should be. He does *not *need to “grow a pair”, she needs to stop threatening him. The Paleolithic is back that way, sir.
Oh, and to answer the poll, I’ve been raped twice, when I was a kid, by men, and since then, I’ve never once felt threatened or intimidated by either men or women, never mind actually assaulted.
This is ridiculous. I feel like some of the men on here forgot to take their clue pills this morning.
Most of the situations described there is still an imbalance of power. A streetwalker comes up to you and grabs your junk. You flick her hand away and clearly are not intimidated.
Let’s up the imbalance though, and not in your favor. Let’s say you are working at your dream job and your boss, who you are not sexually interested in - in any way - grabs your junk a few times and refers to you (in private) as her boy toy. Further, your boss starts upping the demands and now wants sex from you.
Laugh it off? No big deal? Time to turn in your man card because you are intimidated?
How about this situation:
You are out at a restaurant with your family and the waitress shoves her breasts in your face. Your children are sitting there aghast and your wife is upset even though you promptly complain about the service. You threaten to call over the manager and she promptly floods the conversations about demented lies that involve the two of you together. Would you respect her moxie?
My reaction depends on attracted I am to her.
What kind of scenario is this? Do male waiters do this to female customers? It’s completely ridiculous.
The thing is, that scenario with the boss you mentioned? It rarely happens. If I was a waiter and a woman smacked my ass, I’d laugh and expect a big tip.
“who you are not sexually interested in”
Fair enough - although I’ve seen males do slightly similar things at clubs, in front of the woman’s boyfriend.
I would say that male sexual assaults (outside of children and prison) rarely happens, so I’m not sure exactly how that detracts from the situation.
Frankly speaking this sounds like a lot of male bravado to me. In my younger days I had a woman who was infatuated with me who threw herself at me despite my repeatedly turning her down.
In one situation the woman was becoming very physical and I had to leave the party I was attending - despite the fact that I had a girlfriend at the time. It was not welcomed, it was not appreciated, and it certainly didn’t make me want to ‘laugh’ or appreciate her moxie.
Sure, the threat wasn’t physical - but it was certainly emotional since she did threaten to let my girlfriend know about “us” (which was absurd, since there was no ‘us’ or anything remotely like it).