Men: do you notice a woman's nail polish and/or shoes?

A lot of 'em do; a lot of 'em don’t: Cite.
(See also this thread.)

If there’s one thing I can confidently state, it’s that tastes vary. Women, no matter what you do with your hair, your nails, and your shoes, as long as they’re clean and healthy (and maybe even if they’re not), there are going to be some who find it a turn-on, some who find it a turn-off, and some who don’t notice or don’t care.

They do that for other women.

Maybe they don’t give a shit about your restrictions.

I linked to it in post 27

You’re such a class act, as always.

Yes, women dress up to impress other women, not men. Other women notice what styles are worn and who they are competing with. All the preening and primping is done for the target audience that will be doing the judging, the other women.

It is remarkable that a few women here keep saying this just isn’t true but they are fooling themselves.

I hope this was a joke, because I laughed pretty hard.

You should let the porn industry know. Oh, and strippers! Boy, those women sure will feel silly when they find out they don’t need to do their hair or nails or makeup, or wear high heels, or shave their legs and pits and poons and such.

I notice all these things but shoes are probably at the bottom of the list. Also, only notice these things on women I’m attracted to (unless they are really gaudy or cartoonish or something.)

You are so right. :cool:

But there *are *some things men don’t really notice that women actually do for other women (or for themselves):

Designer dresses, handbags and shoes.

If the dress is cute, or sexy or flattering, we like it. The label means nothing, other than sticker shock if we have to pay for it.

Handbags- more or less that same, we only notice if the bag is HUGE or
tiny.

Shoes- yes, nice shoes do help, but mostly with the posture and the walk. Stripper heels are a little different. :wink: But if you spend $500 on a pair of “Manolo Balanks” (sp?) no straight guy cares- unless he’s “footing” the bill.

Subtle make up. We might notice if it’s not there. Guys don’t notice mascara or eyelashes as much as women seem to do. We do notice lips.

Jewelry. Scarves.

:smiley: Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all week.

And the male respondents to this poll/thread.

Edit: DrDeth’s response seems in line with what has always been my understanding.

Argent Towers, don’t you live in a college town? Bloomington maybe? Apologies if that’s wrong. But I was just thinking about all of this and mostly agreeing with you, when I had a thought. I’m in my early thirties and I never went to university, but I’ve spent some time hanging out in college dorms and dating college girls here in the states, and I’ve indeed been amazed at the seemingly inherent ability of American college girls to look fantastic whilst stumbling around drunk at the end of the night or hung-over first thing in the morning. Of course there’s a selection bias at work, because you’re likely to only notice or remember the gorgeous ones.
I’m currently located in Chicago, where I feel I’m consistently surrounded by beautiful women as I walk down the street, many who look amazing despite their (real or cultivated) bedraggled appearance. But I recently attended a wedding in a town in Texas, and I was struck by the disproportionate lack of overall attractiveness in the general population there. (As an aside, why is this? Why do large cities and universities seem to be bursting at the seams with beautiful people, in contrast to small towns and rural areas? Genetic diversity? Simply a result of a larger population? Maybe it needs its own thread.) Anyway, it seemed to me that the women considered attractive in this Texas town were the ones who seemed to put a lot of effort into their appearances, what I would consider too much makeup, etc. But back home in Chicago, the town beauty queens would be quickly glanced over in favour of a ragged and bloodshot DePaul coed doing the walk of shame after a wild concert in Wicker Park.

Exception: anything glittery sitting in/near cleavage.

I don’t think the guys I work with notice when I switch foundation or eyeshadow color, but if I came into work without any makeup on, believe you me, they would definitely notice, even though I don’t wear a lot of it and only use neutral shades.

I think make-up and hairstyles should be classed differently than shoes, nails, etc. People generally look at each others’ faces rather often. Even from across a room, you can see someone’s face and hairstyle. It would be hard not to notice hair and make-up at least a little.

Asking about noticing make-up is also problematic because, in theory, it’s not supposed to be noticeable at all. It’s like toupees. Everybody insists that they can always spot a toupee. Maybe some people can. More likely, they notice the really bad ones, miss the good ones, and convince themselves they’ve spotted them all. Likewise, I’ve seen women (and men!) with make-up that was obvious. But there have doubtless been women (and men?) who have worn make-up and I never knew it. So, I guess I have to say that I’m sure I notice make-up to some extent, but it’s difficult to know the extent.

I generally notice those things the way I notice what cars people drive. I might remember someone has a relatively newish looking reddish car. I definitely would not notice, unless I specifically made it a point to do so, the make / model of the car, the year, the condition of the tires, or whether it had fuzzy dice hanging from the rear-view.

I don’t notice those details, just as I don’t notice nails, jewelry, and footwear on women, nor the details of their hairstyle and make-up. Unless, of course, I’m specifically trying to, or if circumstance makes it impossible not to. (For example, one of my coworkers wears shoes that go clip-clop. She sounds like a horse, or rather half a horse, as she has only two feet. The clip-clop annoys me . My shoes are very quiet and do not clip-clop. If it were not for the clip-clop, I would know nothing at all about her shoes.)

I think many men underestimate how often make-up affects their perception of a woman, but many women vastly overestimate the effect of nails, shoes, jewelry, and wardrobe.

I try to notice because I appreciate the time and effort that women take to look good. I think most women generally do look better with makeup, shaved/waxed/plucked and hair coiffed. Also, I believe women appreciate my noticing. I hope they do anyway. I think DrDeth is right about designer labels though.

The thread that started this thread was about PUAs, and Mystery, a famous PUA, has a famous neg about a woman’s nails. You tell her they look nice, but follow up by asking if they’re real.

I’m generally attracted to women all over the place. Tall, short, blond, brunette, redhead, slim, curvy or flat, etc. I find some women attractive that hardly anybody else does, and I’m not attracted to a surprising number of women who most guys would find excruciatingly hot. But then I find some homely women homely and some hot women hot. With me there’s a very complex set of qualities that comes into play that make women attractive in different ways and for different reasons and results in my finding a wide variety of women attractive.

But as far as noticing hair, makeup, nails and so forth, I generally only do that when a woman is very attractive, and very well put together. And even then the feeling it triggers is usually more one of admiration than lust.

What does get under my skin and will keep me thinking of a woman for days afterward, even if she’s not particularly attractive, is an open, winning, cheerful smile, bright, sparkling eyes that look directly into mine, and the impression that she thinks I’m pretty hot stuff. Those three qualities will draw me to a woman much more quickly than will perfect hair, nails and makeup. And for a better reason too - her behavior makes me think she likes me, and that in turn makes me like her. And as a person, rather than a target.

But then just the other night, there was this excruciatingly cute little chick with a smokin’ hot physique at the grocery store, wearning very little makeup but dressed in tight pink flannel pajama-bottom style pants and Uggs boots and a fuzzy pink and white sweater …and there were bullseyes all over her. :smiley:

And then there’s the type who manages to convey interest and aloofness at the same time…

It’s…complicated.

But basically, men like it when you seem to genuinely like them. A winning smile, sparkling, interested eyes, and the impression you genuinely like the guy will get you a lot further than a lot of money spent on hair, makeup and nails will.

I notice them all. It helps that I associate with a subculture where things like clothes, hair and makeup are a defining element, so it’s only polite to notice these things in your friends, and by extension, everyone else. But I’d be like this even if I didn’t hang around with Goths.

I do find it highly amusing that the guy who absolutely loves Elizabethan dandies doesn’t care to notice women’s shoes.

I find historical costumes interesting because they’re so radically different from anything that people wear today.

Women’s fashion and cosmetics is constantly being shoved in everyone’s face, in magazines, in commercials, in movies, on television, on billboards…it’s inescapable. I don’t care about it…it holds zero appeal to me.

I’ve had guys I’ve screwed around with insist they’ve seen me without any make up on. Oh no they have not. Most days all I do is apply foundation and concealer so it doesn’t really look like I’m made up, but I am.